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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  You can't run your health-systems at peak level needed for a once-in-a-century outbreak such as this. That would be ridiculous
  

  Of course, but our health systems are virtually at peak level 365 days of the year, with no room to absorb anything.

  With the money Australia has wasted on stupid shit, funding blackholes like our stupid 50+billion dollar submarine scheme, we should have hospitals and equipment to spare. The only logistical problem should be finding the health care workers and Docotrs.

  What’s a more reasonable expectation we should have of our governments, that we have plenty of vacant beds and medical equipment available on excess all year round, perhaps even entire hospitals lying idle?

  Should we expect a health care system where kids are rushed out recovery after surgery, makeshift ICUs regularly at bedside, emergency departments overflowing and so on?

  That’s why covid19 is dangerous, we are not holding our governments to account, hopefully this changes things
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  It is estimated that only 4% of the Australian population falls into the high risk category, their vulnerability does not make covid19 a death sentence by any means.

  The real problem, and our politicians refuse to speak about it, is our hospitals and health care systems. They run at capacity as it is, we don’t have room for more patients.

  There aren’t ICU beds lying idle, let alone wards of ICU beds. The beds are full, year round. Hospitals are understaffed and overworked, grossly underfunded and have been for some time.

  There are some that live at the mercy of our health systems year in, year out, and post covid19 it won’t be any better.

  It’s time for massive future investment into health infrastructure.

  This relatively harmless virus is now hurting even the most wealthy and privileged.

  The cost of not protecting or concerning ourselves with the most vulnerable people in society is now being paid
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  “I’m young and healthy so coronavirus won’t affect me” (why we need to stop this disease at ALL costs!)

  by slimboyfat in

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  even if you are young and heathy there are very good reasons to fear this disease and take drastic actions to avoid it individually, and halt it together as communities.

  not only would it be traumatic as a society to lose so many old and unwell family members and friends, but survivors of the disease may suffer significant health problems in the future.

  survivors of the first sars virus in 2003 have suffered significant lung problems.

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  Herd immunity isn’t a political idea it’s actually a scientific concept.

  It’s still very likely that this will become a seasonal with the majority building immunity.

  That’s if society survives in the meantime.
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  The Evil Masterminds Behind COVID-19: Charmin and Cottonelle

  by keyser soze in

  1. social
  2. current

  of all the things people decided they needed to stockpile for a potential quarantine.

  all of the stores around my area ran completely out of toilet paper this last weekend.

  people were piling it into their carts and vehicles as if they were going to be holed up for a year.

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  In Australia, the closer you get to towns the bigger the cues of people outside supermarkets every morning.

  A few of the major chains have announced that door stores will be opened only for the elderly and disabled for the first hour.

  Very sad the way this is turning out. Our governments have failed us dramatically
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  School project on evolution

  by Leonie1234 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey!.

  first of all i want to mention that i'm not a member of the jehovahs witnesses.

  however i'm open and non-judgemental towards any kind of religion.

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  @Leonie

  Yes this place can be a wonderful community, almost life saving for some who have needed it.

  I was raised a JW and would scoff at evolution. It’s embarrassing, I feel stupid for that but am very grateful I started thinking for myself at almost age 30.

  There have been so many supporters of creation and biblical nonsense come and go on this site, Cofty is giant in this place and his contributions to the ex-JW community are to be commended, he’s extremely helpful to many.

  Stay safe everyone, let’s enjoy ourselves
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  “I’m young and healthy so coronavirus won’t affect me” (why we need to stop this disease at ALL costs!)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
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  even if you are young and heathy there are very good reasons to fear this disease and take drastic actions to avoid it individually, and halt it together as communities.

  not only would it be traumatic as a society to lose so many old and unwell family members and friends, but survivors of the disease may suffer significant health problems in the future.

  survivors of the first sars virus in 2003 have suffered significant lung problems.

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  Three blokes in my hometown of Brisbane in Australia have found a way to control the virus, it looks extremely promising at the very least at this stage.

  Their research is based around spike proteins the virus uses to invade cells.
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  Coronavirus: Will the org invoke new donations direction?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since donations boxes are going to lie empty for who knows how long, will the warwick parasites instruct (aka insist) jw's to now donate via bank standing order?.

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  I do wonder if the WT is going to use this pandemic for leverage to introduce permanent changes to how they operate.

  They’ve been looking to trim fat, that could now accelerate.

  If they say some bullshit like “we are selling 80% of assets in prep of the great tribulation, follow very closely all directions from the slave, stay close to the brothers now is the time for faith, for those without a relationship with jehovah now it’s to late.. yada yada”

  The fervent excitement among the sheep could even see a spike in donations. Less questions about big sales, less time to ponder child abuse issues and wacky doctrine
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  Can single sisters get Breast Augmentation?

  by friedchicken in

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  2. experiences

  i am curious can a single jw sister get a breast augmentation?

  will the elders disfellowship her?

  will jehovah be angry with her or upset?

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  Cosmetic surgery to beautify is generally frowned upon, much would depend on the local elder body as to how miserable they try to make one feel for pursuing it.

  One could always tell the elders to piss off and mind their own business
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  “I’m young and healthy so coronavirus won’t affect me” (why we need to stop this disease at ALL costs!)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  even if you are young and heathy there are very good reasons to fear this disease and take drastic actions to avoid it individually, and halt it together as communities.

  not only would it be traumatic as a society to lose so many old and unwell family members and friends, but survivors of the disease may suffer significant health problems in the future.

  survivors of the first sars virus in 2003 have suffered significant lung problems.

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  Waves of panic don’t help, the Italy response could have backfired.

  They shut shown business forcing thousands of young working people to travel home, homes full of extended elderly families who’s immune systems got overwhelmed, they died.

  A measured response is needed, nothing more.

  But isn’t that just delaying the inevitable? Aren’t we better off letting the disease run its course? No! When the virus is under control, as it is coming under control in South Korea, then a very rigorous system of testing and isolation of ill patients CAN keep this disease under control.

  You are quite wrong on this point, and it actually reads just like a WT article.

  It is why governments are taking action, what we are all doing in society or least should be is precisely that, delaying the inevitable.

  At least you are on board with that.
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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  The majority of people who get this virus will have a very minor condition.

  I repeat, for those with no underlying health problems, this is a very minor illness.

  Funny how this message gets shouted down.

  They are direct quotes form Brendan Murphy, Australia’s chief medical officer.

  The danger from over panic is also very real.

  I’m around special needs children regularly, save the bullshit lectures about irresponsible attitudes, just thought I’d pass on the message from Dr Murphy.