happy@last

Joined

• started 21 topics
• posted 1,074 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by happy@last

• 
  2

  Should I go back to the meetings???

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stopped going for a few months and have been real busy with work using this as a bit of an excuse to not go.

  my family has gone on as if not much has changed and i feel marginalize as my family goes on and does scocial thing with the ones in the hall etc.

  most of my kids are under the age of 11 and so i don't know if i tell them little things if it really sinks in anyway.

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  happy@last

  It's tough as many use the witnesses as a social club, however I think it might send out mixed messages to your children doing half and half. This will only confuse them. Shower them with all the love you have.
• 
  71

  Trying to overcome my homophobia.

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a music album by a gay guy before i was a jw and had no problem listening to it.

  it's good music.

  some of the lyrics are what you might call 'gay', that is there's some talk about boyfriends, gay bars, and queens and the intolerance the artist encountered as a gay man.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  I would agree with Blondie, it is sometimes the circle of people we are with that can dictate our 'prejudices'. Don't look at gay people as being gay, look at them as being people.
• 
  10

  Finished Crisis of Conscience Recently

  by wallievase in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well i finally got around to finishing crisis of conscience.

  2 things stood out to me most.. 1. the fact that the gb can question beliefs and noone else can.. 2. strangly the most disturbing fact- its a small one- but actually made the biggest impression on me out of the whole book-.

  the fact that they agreed to send him a copy of his meeting tapes and then refused and admitted in writing that they lied.. obviously there was much more that i got from it and i do find franz situation unique in that he had a whole support system outside of the "truth" and most today including myself have nothing- if i leave my wife hates me, my family wont talk to me, etc- it doesnt provide any solution for that scenario.. any thoughts on the above points- let me know.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  Hi, welcome here. I read it a few years ago but I think it shows that even the GB can't question the belief system. Even the GB consulted past watchtower articles to find the answers, rather than consulting the 'head of the congregation'
• 
  39

  I wonder...

  by braincleaned in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i wonder about why so many of us stick to the "truth" within the frame of the jehovah's witness religion.. of course, the wts has authority over our minds thru the control of information, demonizing any "worldly" knowledge that might jeopardize our faith in this entity.. thru my own experience, i understand how we can stick to this organization; because of a life's investment in serving, and the close ties of family and peers we do not wish to abandon or upset.

  so we are here on sites like these, to understand the mechanisms of the cult... to try to make sense of why we should stay, or why we should leave.. the consequences are too important to take this lightly, or too swiftly.. if i may share a bit of my journey, i did not have to worry too much about the cult at first, because my main battle was based deeper than that.

  after all, the root of any christian religion is in the bible itself; faith in jehovah and christ; trust in the idea that the bible is inspired by god himself.. so yes, my quest went to the base, the root of the jw faith... the bible.. since childhood, the character of jehovah was a problem for me.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  Thank you for your post. I left a couple of years ago after having doubts for years. There are many accounts that show the so-called loving father in a different light, with no valid explanation or justification, this is the one I have never had an answer to:

  13 David then said to Nathan: “I have sinned against Jehovah.”+ Nathan replied to David: “Jehovah, in turn, forgives your sin.*+ You will not die.+ 14 Nevertheless, because you have treated Jehovah with utter disrespect in this matter, the son just born to you will certainly die.” 15 Then Nathan went to his own house. And Jehovah struck the child whom U·ri′ah’s wife had borne to David, and he became sick. 16 David pleaded with the true God in behalf of the boy. David went on a strict fast and would go in and spend the night lying on the ground.+ 17 So the elders of his house stood over him and tried to raise him up from the ground, but he refused and would not eat with them. 18 On the seventh day the child died, but David’s servants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead. They said: “While the child was alive we spoke to him, and he did not listen to us. So how can we tell him that the child has died? He may do something terrible.” 19 When David saw that his servants were whispering to one another, he discerned that the child had died. David said to his servants: “Has the child died?” They replied: “He has died.” 20 So David got up from the ground. He washed, rubbed himself with oil,+ changed his clothing, and went to the house+ of Jehovah and prostrated himself. Afterward, he went to his house* and asked for food to be brought to him, and he ate. 21 His servants asked him: “Why have you acted in this way? While the child was alive, you fasted and kept weeping; but as soon as the child died, you got up and ate food.” 22 He replied: “While the child was alive, I fasted+ and kept weeping because I said to myself, ‘Who knows whether Jehovah may show me favor and let the child live?’+ 23 Now that he has died, why should I fast? Can I bring him back?+ I will go to him,+ but he will not return to me.”+

  This has been taken from the JW bible, and no JW was ever able to give me an explanation for it, totally disgusting behaviour of a so-called loving god.
• 
  19

  An opportunity for AAWA leaders

  by besty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it be nice to see you guys post on jwn now and again - keep this community up to speed with what you are doing maybe?

  all we have seen is the controversies - it would be great to know what else is going on.. as far as i know aawa leadership are not banned from jwn.. or should i not hold my breath?.

  .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  I would agree, someone posted on here a great video they had done, I would never have known about it otherwise.
• 
  7

  Ive just had a "Ooooooh sh@t" moment

  by DS211 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im reading steven hassans "combatting cult mind control" and ive just had an "oooooooh sh@t" moment.

  so ive been learning about the differences between mind control abd brainwashing and also how much the wt correlates with these things.

  now according to festinger, whom hassan quotes a lot, cognitive dissonance (three componants to mind control) requires only a change to behavior, thought, or emotions and the other two will follow suit.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  I had a few such moments reading that book, a must read if you have any doubts about whether it's a cult or not.
• 
  36

  No one in JW religion has a title that elevates them above others! I did not know this fact!

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from jw.org (while waiting for new bible to download, i clicked on the link for "christian," which asks the following question...).

  "are we christians?

  we are christians, for the following reasons.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  SFPW - I'm assuming you are being satirical about no elder or CO being able to tell you what to do? If not I wonder what would happen if this month you don't turn in your report, or tell the CO you visit websites frequented by disfellowshipped people. How long will it be before you are told to obey the rules of the governing body or you are out?
• 
  41

  How many have read 'Crisis of Conscience'?

  by tornapart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for me it was the book!

  it opened my eyes.

  i started it thinking it would just enlighten me about how the organisation works.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  I read it also.
• 
  35

  Celebrate my first post of many :)

  by Mellow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, my name is mellow (some names have been changed) lol.

  as no doubt many of you were, i was born in.

  i am now in my mid 20s living in a jehovah's witness household.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  Welcome, enjoy the journey. You'll get lots of support here.
• 
  29

  Hi

  by LucidChimp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking here for a year or two now (since i stumbled across ttatt and was stumbled by it), i even started an account some while back and asked a couple of questions.. but i never actually stood up and said hi... so hi, my name's jon and i'm a dubaholic.. .

  i was "born in" in the 80s - and grew up on a liquid diet of cheap suits and revelation book pictures (i mean really, group after group just staring at the pictures while not listening, i must have spent more time staring at those pictures than i have any work of art in my life, literally hours at each lurid picture).

  i "left" in my teens, but apparently lacking any kind of actual sense, returned to studying with a childhood friend from the congregation in my twenties (although i was never baptised, my entire small family were dubs, so i saw more witnesses than "worldly people" on a regular basis.. they love bombed my arse for years!)..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  happy@last

  Welcome from Scotland, loved the intro, glad you were never dunked.