What is your definition of a real life, Moshe?
Maybe one free from indoctrination?
gasp....i hate this part on the meeting, and i don't feel like studying for it.. has anyone done it already, and want to share it with me?
i feel like cheating this week..
What is your definition of a real life, Moshe?
Maybe one free from indoctrination?
a child rape victim is sentenced to 100 lashes.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814.
i don't know about you, i'm an atheist, but i cannot accept that any religion can justify this inhumane, brutal, wicked treatment of a child victim of rape.. there is no excuse for this behaviour on the part of a supposedly civilsed government.
it has fuck all to do with religion, it has all to do with humanity and being a 'human being'.. i have written to my mp and hope to follow this up through the un charter on childrens' rights.. anyone here booked a 'maldives luxury holiday'?.
I didn't see this story, it is all wrong from the start for this poor girl! Not only is she raped, but now has to face a flogging. It doesn't look like the two are connected. I was pleased to see the mother is facing charges for not having reported the abuse.
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i think thy are all the same..th base logistics of how thy run thier affairs n worship is the same... thy ar all man made..all mind controlling..if religion is a big part of your life jus pick one and deal with its crap.coz its gonna be there.!.
.its jus not th jw,th catholics ,the muslims thy jews ,th mushroomming ministries th list in endles... am just sayin.
I would agree with jnat, not all are the same. The underlying belief system might be, but the degree in which it is mind controlling is definitely not the same. In most religions you will find extremists or orthodox believers, and these have cult methods, but the general John or Jo in the street who says they are catholic or protestant doesn't make every decision based on their religious beliefs
i had been reading discussions on topix about the case and decided to go see what was actually said and not said during the trial.
i'm left with several indelible impressions of the courage and honesty of candace and of her mother kathleen.. another thing is that the court was given the opportunity to really get a feel for the jw lifestyle.
the close family relationships they promote which emphasizes, for me, that if the elders had been as vigilant as they said they were they would have spotted that kendrick had become alarmingly close to candace.
truthsekkeriam said: I have many complaints as to how the elders respond to having a known molester in their congregation, but my main one is how they take away the rights of every parent by not giving them the information to protect their children.
I have shared those views with my JW family and they completely agree.
Me too, and yet they still go along like zombies! Additonally the WTBS also allow these criminals to go door to door, exposing them to more families.
here's a few guesses.... the brooklyn waterfront is a convenient place for the society to make their videosgrowing up as a jw when your friends have cellphones and you don't is "kind of rough" and a "kind of sad story"suddenly it's ok for jw youths to "go out" with worldly friends?
?you should listen to what your "peers" say, so long as they're jws on a society video.
anything else is peer pressure.playing by yourself with a frisbee is the preferred sport for young people (no teams or competition involved)young jws don't have a clue how to communicate with the opposite sex via text messages"it's really up to you how you choose to communicate with this wonderful tool that you have"... even though it clearly isn't.the society's video-making department are already running out of ideashttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se_iuspg_14.
When a JW says to me 'I miss you' it stirs emotions in me!
Definitely a pointless video......
some people recently raised concerns about security of the site relating to whether forum members could be watchtower plants trying to obtain information about people.
apparently, this was because a previous forum that was setup was either owned by or later handed over to someone who used it to collect personal information about people which was then used to harrass them.
i don't know all the details, i'm just paraphrasing what i've heard and recognize that it's a concern to some people.. i want to first of all put people's minds at rest: i've been running this site for what will be 13 years next month.
Thank you Simon, this truly is a unique place.
hoi,.
my name is rijk janssen.. seven years ago i have a few posts related to an open letter, as "gladiator".. ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/88095/1/seventh-open-letter ).. i knew the email address and password of that account any more.. my english is not good so i never came her again.. now with translation sites it might better weather to read along.
( http://www.vertalen.nu .
Welcome Rijk
hey i have come to love some of the discussions on here and the information.
i am currently awake and have no plans to fade, in my case i am patient enough to in time become an elder to at least help the younger friends here in my area, in the sense of helping them wake up/if elder have their back..
Welcome, I understand your cause, I felt the same at one time, I'm sorry I wasted so many years now though.
--because i no longer nelieve.
i was excommunicated for "apostasy".
that was their rationale for not allowing me to speak at his funeral last month.
I'm sure you'll get plenty of stories, many here are shunned, meanwhile thank you for sharing and I'm sorry to hear your family too are under mind control.
hi guys,.
so then, why did you get dunked?
were you pressured into it too, or did you do it because you honestly thought it was the right thing to do?.
I was 15, had experienced a crappy childhood and the cult made me think I'd be happier if I was a true JW. I was dunked at Crystal Palace, London