Same as with the iPads, then. Disinterest turns to technolust as soon as the GB bestows their blessing on some technology.
I guess this means you can look forward to having GBTV in your house from now on. I'm sorry.
Apognophos
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A day in the life of a Cop...my story. The truth.
by Witness 007 ini work for a mental health unit with 2 police officers we deal with people who have drug and mental health issues.
at times over the last 10 years we have "taken down" some large drug affected men, mainly "ice" these days which is epidemic here, and let me tell you even with three of us it is a huge struggle.
sometimes back up is needed or mace spray which is aweful stuff!
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I appreciate your perspective, Witness 007, and feel the same way. I support law and order despite the occasional abusive officer. When I imagine what it's like to be a lone officer responding to a crime, and not knowing if I'm going to find someone with a weapon, someone hostile, etc., I wonder how anyone can do this job.
Sadly, when a gun is made available to a cop, they are naturally going to use it, because it would be foolish not to defend themselves from someone who may want to kill them. I would like to see a non-lethal gun (maybe just an improved taser) replace the sidearms that U.S. cops carry currently.
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Sister trying to convince me and herself
by NoMoreFear4Tracy inlong story short i was raised in this cult (but was never baptized) my mother is die hard jdub, i didnt take this "faith" seriously until i was 26, but i had always gone to meeting, was enrolled in the theocratic school and was mediocre in service.
at 26 i made the conscious decision to make this religion my own.
i red the bible cover to cover and used cross reference from the watchtower and other religious sites,with the end goal to get baptized.
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This list is really more of 10 Things That (Supposedly) Make Jehovah's Witnesses Unique. Even if all 10 points were truly unique, that would not make them automatically correct. There are a good number of arguments against these points individually, to be found around the forum.
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Sister trying to convince me and herself
by NoMoreFear4Tracy inlong story short i was raised in this cult (but was never baptized) my mother is die hard jdub, i didnt take this "faith" seriously until i was 26, but i had always gone to meeting, was enrolled in the theocratic school and was mediocre in service.
at 26 i made the conscious decision to make this religion my own.
i red the bible cover to cover and used cross reference from the watchtower and other religious sites,with the end goal to get baptized.
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Having technical problems? You had my rapt attention until the story cut off :-) You can edit your post for another 15 minutes if need be.
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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
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That is why ‘accidents’, hidden images, things the artist didn’t really intend to put in their images end up in there at times.
It's a nice-sounding theory, but you forgot to include any citations to, you know, anything scientific.
I challenge any one of you to disprove the existence of hidden images in advertising.
Surely the burden of proof is on you to provide actual examples of these hidden images!
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It's pointing out the inconsistency of English spelling vs. pronunciation. Gallagher actually has a bit on this that I really enjoyed as a kid.
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Even when you're right - it's still possible to make bad arguments.
by Coded Logic induring heated debates people - who are normaly quite rational - often start employing bad reasoning.
it's important that when we're emotionaly invested in a topic we don't let our feelings destroy our ability to put forth valid arguments.
the best way to bring people to our side of a debate is by using good logic.
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Yes, that was my experience too, Vidiot. When I realized that the Society's arguments against evolution were specious, it led me to research the topic more fully. Unfortunately I allowed creationist sites to lead me astray. I think I still wanted to believe in creationism, so I let their arguments hold more sway with me than they deserved.
That being said, the conclusion of my research was that I saw both sides of the issue as being equally likely, rather than deciding firmly on creationism. So it definitely was the beginning of a mental move away from the "truth", especially because I had to rely on non-Watchtower arguments to support my position once I had seen how little the Society's writers knew about evolution and how little interest they had in representing it fairly (Ken Ham makes those guys look bad, and that's saying a lot).
I spent some time yesterday going through a couple of threads and I realized that there was no way that either a free exchange of thought or a fair an unbiased discussion could continue. It was kind of dis heartening because I wanted to jump in but I then realized that it would be like walking in front of a moving train.
I would just suggest that people are this way everywhere. How many people have you seen discussing Ferguson rationally outside of this board? Five percent? So why should this forum be an exception to human emotionality? I don't actually know which discussions you're referring to, and you might not mean any of the more politically-charged ones, but in those cases at least, I'm not surprised when people cannot temper their emotions. It's sadly just humans being humans.
Personally I don't even read those topics, much less participate. Once someone responds rudely to one's post, it's hard to remain calm and not retaliate, so I prefer to avoid emotionally-charged topics altogether (though sometimes I get caught in a topic that turns emotional, and it gets to me too). It's also true that there is probably more pent-up anger among the users here than on an average forum, just because of our experiences. See this topic for a very telling insight into the board's mindset, as an example: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/284727/1/I-loathe-authority
That being said, sometimes it's fun to jump in front of (imaginary) trains It can't actually hurt you. Why not just dive in and offer your opinion? Expressing oneself freely is a nice change of pace from being a Witness, and especially from being at Bethel, right? Odds are, a few members will appreciate what you have to say. Sometimes it takes one person to speak up first; then they find that others chime in to support them. And even if the discussion goes south, don't worry; people generally don't seem to remember who said what a month later.
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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
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I don't care for unsupported assertions that make the community look bad. Assertions such as the old "subliminal advertising" urban legend. Subliminal images in advertising have hardly ever been used, and they're hardly effective in tests.
When you look objectively at this situation and realize that none of you are seeing the same image, but you all are seeing nefarious things, you have an opportunity to step outside yourselves and learn something about the way the mind works. You've already been given the link to the Pareidolia article to learn about this trick that the brain plays on us.
The black man's arm that accidentally looked phallic also looked a lot like an arm, as it so happens. He was either replaced because the JW used as a model was DFed or because people kept saying his arm looked like a penis. That doesn't mean it was intentional. Do you really think the brother who painted that was willing to risk his livelihood at Bethel to sneak a massive phallus into his work? Think logically. The average age of the painters is probably 50 or older, last time I was there.
You know, the Art department is not a mysterious place full of shadowy figures. It's all laid out in the open, with small offices for each painter. The brothers are assigned a subject and they start off painting it the way they like. Then they receive notes from a supervisor who is humorless and orthodox and who may tell them to adjust some parts for doctrinal or prudish reasons. No one is telling them "Hide a goat face here". The idea is laughable.
This is a well-known reaction that occurs when people are resentful of those in power and make bad-faith assumptions. People who have worked in government know how unlikely most government conspiracy theories are. The biggest adherents to those theories are the people who are furthest from the center of power and know the least about the subject. The same thing is occurring here.
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I tripped into a JW literature cart
by diana netherton ini wasn't looking where i put my feet, and i almost took the cart out!
anyway, i stopped and chatted with the people for a bit.
three women and a man -- an elder and his wife.
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I agree, simply being a friendly person is its own kind of anti-witness because it avoids playing into the "embittered apostate looking for followers" stereotype. It could get Witnesses thinking who would not be made to think by a confrontational ex-Witness who came over to argue doctrine with them.
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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
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I don't rule out the possibility of someone having once hidden an image in some artwork for mischief, but it's unlikely. These aren't young mischievous brothers doing the paintings, they're generally older, trusted brothers who take their work seriously.
Apog, I haven't really noticed any indication that anybody believes there is some kind of conspiracy.
You must not have read the post on the top of this very page then. This pareidolic bullshit does lead directly into the notion that the WT is trying to program people with images, and you guys can't even agree what you are seeing. I'm embarrassed to be on this forum right now and will absolutely speak out when I see this foolishness, regardless of what you guys feel about it.