Posts by DeWandelaar

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Jesus sacrifice and animal sacrifice contradiction

by trackregister99 in

romans 3:25 says that jesus sacrifice was applied to the past for sins forgives.. then why god request animals sacrifice like "shadow of the good things to come" (hebrews 10:1) if the jesus sacrifice forgive sins to the past.. the animal blood not have none value, because jesus sacrifice was applied to the past.. why sacrificies for forgive of sins was requested by god if romans 3:25 says that jesus forgive the sins to the past?..

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DeWandelaar

According to the bible animals where made for destruction anyways (just like evil apostates):

2 peter 2:12 (2 peter should be taken as a "falsified book" but taken that aside it still is a "canonical book"):

i But these, like irrational animals, j creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blasphe ming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction

We see here that it is absolutely normal to kill animals and farm them and kill them... long live the bible :D HOOORAHHHHH

On a side note I want to add this: if they were made for destruction why are the JW's tought that these animals would be nice to eachother in paradise? It is absolutely bullocks according to their own book of power

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Best proof to give a JW that humans history is older than 6000 years?

by Mr Fool in

looking for proven evidences.

can it be proven that jerichos walls were built 8000bc?.

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DeWandelaar

Mr Fool... even if you come with that "evidence" they will always say that the methods of measuring the dates are falsified or not accurate enough. The evidence is overwhelming that humans have been longer then 6000 years but because of the floodstory the WTBS states that all the older date theories can not be accurate. And so the circle is round again ;)

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New Urban Legend: Catholic Church to be 'disbanded'

by erbie in

the thread about urban legends got me thinking and i remembered this one which i was told quite recently which definitely deserves its own place.. a few weeks back i was told by an elder that the 'brothers' are saying that the catholic church is to be disbanded with immediate effect by the un because of child abuse coverups which apparently disqualifies it as a 'charitable organization'.. (no siggering!).

he also claimed that it was headline news.. this is of course mad wishful thinking on their part and i was staggered to think that anyone could believe such nonsense but would be very interested to hear if anyone else has heard this.. forgive me if this has already done the rounds but it was news to me..

DeWandelaar

If that is called a headline then I will never be able to keep track of all of them :D

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All JW Elders World Wide...A Call To Action!

by bjc2read in

this just posted on a jw reform board at this link:.

http://meletivivlon.com/2013/10/13/remember-those-who-instructed-you/#comment-4950.

see acts 20:26-28.. if we do not speak out now, at this time, then no elder in any body of elders from around the world, will be able to repeat the words of paul, with a clear conscience.

DeWandelaar

Standard answers on these "rebelry" would be that you guys are fighting against Mozes as Korach and his fellows did. We all know it is bullocks but that is a standard answer you will hear. If they could they would call fire from the heavens to torch your sorry elders asses.

If I were an Elder I would not even have bothered. I would step down, show those guys the finger and tell them to *****

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"you're pretty compassionate for an atheist"

by Hortensia in

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friends

my favorite compliment of the day.

what a lot of assumptions people have about what makes an atheist tick..

DeWandelaar

"Hey love, you are pretty fucked up for a Christian :P"

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New Urban Legend: Catholic Church to be 'disbanded'

by erbie in

the thread about urban legends got me thinking and i remembered this one which i was told quite recently which definitely deserves its own place.. a few weeks back i was told by an elder that the 'brothers' are saying that the catholic church is to be disbanded with immediate effect by the un because of child abuse coverups which apparently disqualifies it as a 'charitable organization'.. (no siggering!).

he also claimed that it was headline news.. this is of course mad wishful thinking on their part and i was staggered to think that anyone could believe such nonsense but would be very interested to hear if anyone else has heard this.. forgive me if this has already done the rounds but it was news to me..

DeWandelaar

These are the moments every individual should ask to come with solid proof... "it was even on the headlines"... no shit: if it was please tell me the data and the newspaper/television station please. That would stop the conversation for sure.

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Do we need to alert newbies to the search engine on topics , so we dont needlesly rehash topics already covered in depth.?

by smiddy in

i must admit i was slow to wake up to the search button to find out about a subject which may have been thrashed to death years ago.only to try to revitalise it in my ignorance.

this is not a fault with newbies .bear with me .i am not computer literate .but is it possible or even plausible that newbies are given a basic instruction on how to find information using the search function ?

surely it could save a lot of needless repetition.just saying.. smiddy.

DeWandelaar

No... they shouldn't because some topics are already "old light"

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In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.

by Stand for Pure Worship in

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so i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?

and it made me think about this forum.

if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.

DeWandelaar

The Troll woke up... and is very hungry

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New Understanding of this Generation

by pronomono in

another tidbit of information about this generation from the 1/15/2014 study edition under "let your kingdom come - but when?".

they've changed it again.. this generation will not pass away14-16.

what is a third reason for believing that gods kingdom will come soon?.

DeWandelaar

Now THAT is the key ladies and gentlemen! The two "groups" can not by any means be backed up by scripture. Even with all the flipflopping the way of thinking was normally backed up (even if it was very irrational). In this situation it is just jumping to conclusion without even backing it up properly!

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The UN's motto means the END OF DAYS!! Gloom and DOOM

by Honeybucket in

a email has been going around the witness community explaining how prophecies are falling into place concerning the wild beast.

aparantly the un's motto this year is "peace and security" 1 thes 5:3 "whenever it is that they are saying peace and security then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pangs of distress upon a pregnant woman aand they by no means will escape".. according to this scripture the "end" should already be here since peace and security has already been declared by the un; i do wonder if this was done on purpose as a slap in the face to wtbs, due to them gb declaring the un a wicked and destable thing.. i would love to hear your thoughts on this matter.. honeybucket.

DeWandelaar

Hmmm... still here :D