DeWandelaar

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  Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.

  if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.

  any active jw may answer this question.

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  DeWandelaar

  SFTW still gets feed a lot... trolls gotta be fed ... nom nom nom nom
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  A one sentence reply that could jolt a JW

  by HBH in

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  2. friends

  my mind was wandering last night, and i though of this as a reply to a jw.. "oh, your the people who believe 8 men in brooklyn, ny are directing the world's only true religion.".

  the sentence is a fact that they can't deny, but clearly shows delusion.

  any other one sentence "stingers"?.

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  DeWandelaar

  "How did Noah get the Dolphins and Whales into the Arc?"

  Genesis 8:21 “I will never again l curse 1 the ground because of man, for m the intention of man’s heart is evil from his youth. n Neither will I eve r again strike down every living creature as I have done. 22 o While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, p day and night, shall not cease.”
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  Divorced Atheist ex-JW Dad

  by braincleaned in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just wanted to chime in as a loving atheist father, divorced to a jw, and what plays as far as educating our children.. we have shared custody but the kids are mainly with their mom - 11 and 14 respectively.. the problem i face is keeping a balance for my children.

  i have turned atheist during our marriage, so my ex didn't have the spiritual support she signed up for anymore.

  i can understand it is not easy.

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  DeWandelaar

  That is a very interesting story Braincleaned... I have read some stuff on the wikipedia page as well and notice you are from Belgium originally? Do you speak dutch? Nice to have you here that's for sure :)
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  Can one find God without studying the Bible?

  by Dis-Member in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't recall jesus ever once telling people that they should even read the bible to find god.. he said nothing about 'taking in knowledge' either.. .

  he didn't encourage people to read the bible because 90% of people in his day couldn't read!

  the bible was not read by most people, it was -heard- when someone else read it aloud.

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  DeWandelaar

  You were fxxxed if you could not read... It is unfair in the first place that people should believe things purely because they are written. That is also why it can not be true :)

  Edited for language, posting guideline 3 - jgnat
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  Confusedandalone is in need of a name change

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey everyone, i want to apologize for not rtesponding to a number of messages i recieved over the last month or so.

  i took a break as suggested by someone else to try and sort things out and clear my head.

  my wife has been reading alot on here and kept me updated on all the fun that has been going on!.

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  DeWandelaar

  HI ConfusedandAlone... it is very nice to hear from you :) ... although you are in a much shittier position then I am I also have been through the process of rereading the bible without the rose glasses and just throwing it in the bin figurely since it does not prove God any good.

  It is not that I do not believe in a diety... I just do not believe in the bible or any book. So I may conscider myself a Deist I guess.

  It is also nice to read that you are not wanna play the game by their rules and I hope you will stick to that plan.

  About your family... I truly do not understand how ANY family would act like that but since we have been JW it is clear that these things do happen too often. I hope that some day their eyes will open up and they will see what kind of shitheads they have been in the past.

  Take care and if you feel the need to chat or something PM me :)
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  John 1:1 in Coptic Translation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently there has been quite a stir in jw apologetic circles recently about the translation of john 1:1 in the early sahidic version of john.

  i don't know if this has been discussed here before - if someone could give a link to a previous thread they know about on the subject that would be great.

  here is what i gather: .

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  DeWandelaar

  If in the beginning there was A god called "the word" then the Jews were Polytheistic in the first place... since everyone learned that only one true God existed it is strange to name another one in the same verse (if it was the same one or a lesser one does not make a difference in that situation).

  Besides... I am no longer trying to make sense of the Gospels :P
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  Was Richard Carrier a Jehovah's Witness?

  by DeWandelaar in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was watching this lecture of him (very nice actually) and he was referring a lot of the bible.

  now he used a bible version with jehovah's name in it and used it quite a lot.

  i was therefore wandering: was he a witness at some point (around 6.20)?.

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  DeWandelaar

  I was watching this lecture of him (very nice actually) and he was referring a lot of the bible. Now he used a bible version with Jehovah's name in it and used it quite a lot. I was therefore wandering: was he a witness at some point (around 6.20)?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Xg4zFQyqY
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  FROM Italy : The 10+1 Urgent Reforms.....to return the trust and honesty in your Organization

  by LaFrancia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reform of goverinig body.

  transparency of their regular meetings and reports to the brotherhood.

  creating a committee for biblical reforms.

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  Why putting new wine in old bags... it is not the truth and making it more proper will not change anything :S
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  Are the Gospels real history or myth?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this lecture by dr. richard carrier will definitely give you something to think about (please note that the video is linked to start about half hour into the video which is when the lecture starts):.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illdt2xhzw0&feature=player_detailpage#t=1659.

  if the timing doesn't work just move the play head to the 27:00 mark.

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  DeWandelaar

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUZOZN-9dc&feature=youtu.be

  Interesting video about the histority of Christ, the Gospels AND the letters and books of the Apostles.
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  why using a tablet at the platform during the meeting?

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can't understand why the governing body aka fds has to deside about using a tablet by the speaker at the platform.. why using a tablet anyway at the platform?.

  just a toy to keep the youth inside the congregation.. gorby.

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  DeWandelaar

  As a company they need to change and look more "cool". It starts at the platform! For me it was just showing off and I must say that I really hate to see it happen. I even get annoyed at all the ipads I see at the assemblies!