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  Do you ever contact those who shun you?

  by Xanthippe in

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  do you ever test the water and see if your relatives or friends still feel the same way?

  i don't have mobile phone numbers or email addresses for my family because we left a long time ago.

  long before facebook.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  It depends how you break. This is my opinion. A good friend of mine break up without talking to me. She knew that I'm more then a critical thinker. We spend some holidays together. But there was no letter or anything. So I don't know, if she like's to meet me again. (Looking for words, try to reconnect someday.) Sometimes I think about reconnecting. Sometimes not. If she talk to me a little bit more before, maybe she could get much more help as she thinks. But I feel hurted thrue her.
  

  On the other side I work from inside. Only thing I can do at the moment. I work on a sister to reconnect to her sister, family can't broke. It looks good at the moment. Maybe the final part is to hear from the other side. Sorry, but it think it's to easy to give up. This is one reason to stay in. (And I don't shun my da family.)
  
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  Who can you trust to admit you have doubts?

  by MrMonroe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (that is, doubts).

  in margaret atwood's "the handmaid's tale", a futuristic story of life inside a repressive, abusive big brother-style society tightly controlled by religious fundamentalists, there's a passage in which the protagonist is alone with another woman at a state-controlled centre where prayers are generated -- then printed out and read out -- by a machine.

  the other woman asks, in barely more than a whisper, "do you think god listens to these machines?

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  crazy_flickering_light

  Great topic. You can't trust anyone. But in some congs there also people who can't leave, but everybody is afraid to tell TTATT. This is the problem, as long as you in and look for building a way out, you can't show your face. Everytime you do so, you can get caught.
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  All shunning soon to end

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is just a first step clapping.

  it's like the fed one quarter bases point at a time.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  I see the opposite. It's move from an information to an event. From burocratic to more emotional. If you sit there df and a other person get's reinstated, what causes more pain?

  Shunning will only end or a little bit reduce if there is a lot more pressure from the outside, maybe if they have to pay money for some damage they cause. Also als long as everybody in the cong is so brainless to follow the rules, they never put away this cruel practice. Even if nobody in the cong say it's wrong, even if he or she don't shun, the fear never ends.
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  2015 WT CD ROM Trying to Hide the Past

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when installing, it asks if you'd like to receive automatic updates via the internet.. in other words, "we will re-write our history without you knowing what was written previously.".

  the corporation knows that many will never exchange their cd rom for the puerile online library, so doctoring their previous "truths" is the best solution.. a bit like the creed painted on the barn door in "animal farm.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  It's the Orwell-Edition. But be shure, it's everytime the truth. Maybe, you have to update it, but after that, it's really the truth. Guaranteed.
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  The GB know it's all lies and wants to dismantle the WTS ... then what?

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so imagine the gb have a sudden attack of honesty and realize "crap, this whole thing is lies - we're not god's spokespeople at all !".

  how do you dismantle a religion that has +8 million members in a responsible way?

  you can't just publish a watchtower saying "we were wrong" because that would be irresponsible - you need to let people down gently, put people off gradually.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  A change could be very easy. Open the door from the jail and let the slaves go.

  If they drop the disfellowshiping and shunning, it will went down very fast. Then it's easier to make a change, because everybody can say and do how he like. If there is no risk to wake up people, the revolution comes from inside. There enough people waiting for the right moment. At this time it's a hard job, to wake up some friends.

  But first the shunning had to stop. It's the only thing which keep the people in the cult. I think this will only ends, if there a lot of pressure from the outside.
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  My First CLAM Meeting

  by The Searcher in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i carried out my monthly "cover" visit to the k.h.

  tonight.

  as previously discussed on this forum, the clam meeting is just a rehashed, recycled, reshuffled, & rebranded ministry school and service meeting.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  No, 3-4 people give an answer, the Rest is asleep. Boring.

  But the little video was cool... 607 B.c. - a fullfilment of the bible. Crazy.
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  New Field Service Report

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone seen this?

  when did that happen?.

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  It's only suggested. But the older people in my cong also buy tablets. It's funny to see. They helpless but got a tab. Most of them buy cheap android-tablets.

  There's free wifi in the cong. So most of them without Internet download it at the kingdomhall. But you can only use JW.org other domains blocked. Only MS and up can surf free.
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  New Field Service Report

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone seen this?

  when did that happen?.

  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  @Cogac: It replaces the old fs-report complete.

  @ Dark knight: Theres no suggestion. Every stupid video from the bOrg counts. I think, if they show a good part and stop in between it will be o.k. There also come a video up, for inviting people to the memorial.

  But the new FS-report is better for cheating. ;)
  
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  JW.org inaccessible

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  crazy_flickering_light

  Is there any way, for watchtower-free from 01.01.-31.12.?
  
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  Most Poorly Written JW Book

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i was thinking the other day that the wt corp has produced thousands of books over the years.

  although the writers have changed the style is almost always the same.

  however, some books are just worse than others.

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  crazy_flickering_light

  Imitate theit faith - absolutly the baddest actual book. What could be, what maybe be and so on. I miss something like: "Maybe they have a beer, look at the sunset and talk about the day." Well, maybe they do it, I hope so for them.