Maybe this will be published as new song. Always submit to the GB... Song 142 was only a teaser?!?!
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"Always submit to the Church Administration", everybody sing it now!!
by WingCommander inhere's a wonderfully sickening video from another cult, the "church of christ".
have a listen and tell me if it doesn't remind you of a certain familiar jw tune, namely, "listen, obey, and be blessed!
this is crazy, just crazy!
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Good news to report: Congregations merged because lack of attendance, publishers & field service
by Khaleesi inso it's official, i am happy to report that we merged with another congregation having the same problem.
why is it good news???
because people are either waking up, fading or just not buying into this organization any longer or walking away.... i think many young ones are just not buying into it as much, i see many in the congregation i go to very depressed and some i know personally going thru major depression especially the young "sisters" in their early 20s.... .
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In germany since 01/2007 until 12/2015:
322 congs merged to 161 (language-congs and normal congs)
6 new regular congs
2 new signlanguage-congs
121 new language-congs (!)
Waiting for new numbers 2016, should be a very interesting.
But main part is: they close congs and merge congs, but you don't see it in the statistic, because of new language-congs. But the language-congs build of normal publishers and build of 20 person or so. So the downfall in the numbers is higher then you think.So I think, that's there way to fix the statistic, build more and more language-congs.
Nearby also one cong was merged lately, more to come.
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Wear were you in the "Pecking order" in the congro??
by karter inwe were right down with the very lowest.. father never a jw we had a po with little mans syndrome and love to pick on sisters that had no husband to stand up for them,he picked on my mother only to find out he picked on the wrong person,she came from a hard up bringing and didn't take any s###t from anyone particularly this little bully and we were very poor...how low can you get!.
karter..
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MS in good standing. Can't drop it at the moment. Only elected, while blocking an elder-son making career. Work to hard for the cong, they can't skip me. Fully awaken after this.
Be sure, I use the place I've been for the right side. Telling the youth TTATT as far as I can, unite every time it's possible family with da/df family-members and much more evil things. Nobody like to mess with me in the last time, they loose a lot of fights, bible-based. There will be a day for the second class, I know, but I'm prepared. JC will come. If you awoken, part of the system and know a lot of stuff - sometimes it's fun.
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Do you ever contact those who shun you?
by Xanthippe indo you ever test the water and see if your relatives or friends still feel the same way?
i don't have mobile phone numbers or email addresses for my family because we left a long time ago.
long before facebook.
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It depends how you break. This is my opinion. A good friend of mine break up without talking to me. She knew that I'm more then a critical thinker. We spend some holidays together. But there was no letter or anything. So I don't know, if she like's to meet me again. (Looking for words, try to reconnect someday.) Sometimes I think about reconnecting. Sometimes not. If she talk to me a little bit more before, maybe she could get much more help as she thinks. But I feel hurted thrue her.
On the other side I work from inside. Only thing I can do at the moment. I work on a sister to reconnect to her sister, family can't broke. It looks good at the moment. Maybe the final part is to hear from the other side. Sorry, but it think it's to easy to give up. This is one reason to stay in. (And I don't shun my da family.)
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Who can you trust to admit you have doubts?
by MrMonroe in(that is, doubts).
in margaret atwood's "the handmaid's tale", a futuristic story of life inside a repressive, abusive big brother-style society tightly controlled by religious fundamentalists, there's a passage in which the protagonist is alone with another woman at a state-controlled centre where prayers are generated -- then printed out and read out -- by a machine.
the other woman asks, in barely more than a whisper, "do you think god listens to these machines?
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Great topic. You can't trust anyone. But in some congs there also people who can't leave, but everybody is afraid to tell TTATT. This is the problem, as long as you in and look for building a way out, you can't show your face. Everytime you do so, you can get caught. -
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All shunning soon to end
by poopie inthis is just a first step clapping.
it's like the fed one quarter bases point at a time.
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I see the opposite. It's move from an information to an event. From burocratic to more emotional. If you sit there df and a other person get's reinstated, what causes more pain?
Shunning will only end or a little bit reduce if there is a lot more pressure from the outside, maybe if they have to pay money for some damage they cause. Also als long as everybody in the cong is so brainless to follow the rules, they never put away this cruel practice. Even if nobody in the cong say it's wrong, even if he or she don't shun, the fear never ends.
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2015 WT CD ROM Trying to Hide the Past
by The Searcher inwhen installing, it asks if you'd like to receive automatic updates via the internet.. in other words, "we will re-write our history without you knowing what was written previously.".
the corporation knows that many will never exchange their cd rom for the puerile online library, so doctoring their previous "truths" is the best solution.. a bit like the creed painted on the barn door in "animal farm.
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It's the Orwell-Edition. But be shure, it's everytime the truth. Maybe, you have to update it, but after that, it's really the truth. Guaranteed. -
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The GB know it's all lies and wants to dismantle the WTS ... then what?
by Simon inso imagine the gb have a sudden attack of honesty and realize "crap, this whole thing is lies - we're not god's spokespeople at all !".
how do you dismantle a religion that has +8 million members in a responsible way?
you can't just publish a watchtower saying "we were wrong" because that would be irresponsible - you need to let people down gently, put people off gradually.
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A change could be very easy. Open the door from the jail and let the slaves go.
If they drop the disfellowshiping and shunning, it will went down very fast. Then it's easier to make a change, because everybody can say and do how he like. If there is no risk to wake up people, the revolution comes from inside. There enough people waiting for the right moment. At this time it's a hard job, to wake up some friends.
But first the shunning had to stop. It's the only thing which keep the people in the cult. I think this will only ends, if there a lot of pressure from the outside.
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My First CLAM Meeting
by The Searcher ini carried out my monthly "cover" visit to the k.h.
tonight.
as previously discussed on this forum, the clam meeting is just a rehashed, recycled, reshuffled, & rebranded ministry school and service meeting.
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No, 3-4 people give an answer, the Rest is asleep. Boring.
But the little video was cool... 607 B.c. - a fullfilment of the bible. Crazy.
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New Field Service Report
by cognac inhas anyone seen this?
when did that happen?.
http://www.jw-archive.org/post/137681838624/new-service-report-jwinspirational.
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It's only suggested. But the older people in my cong also buy tablets. It's funny to see. They helpless but got a tab. Most of them buy cheap android-tablets.
There's free wifi in the cong. So most of them without Internet download it at the kingdomhall. But you can only use JW.org other domains blocked. Only MS and up can surf free.