finally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.
(2 cor.
6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.
`Consider, too, our devoted missionaries ‘who pour themselves out like a drink offering' to serve people in foreign lands.`
-I wonder how many sneaky reminders about missionaries there`ll be, "dont forget about the poor missionaries" = "show us the money"!
this is something that has always bothered me!.
why do rank and file have to pay for co's do's expenses, car, health insurance, meals, etc, etc...?.
didn't the apostle paul say that all christians have to be self sufficient and work?, not depending on anyone else and cause a burden?.
My Dad told me just this morning at work that a new elder, a VERY young man with a family, walked to where the co was sitting during the meeting, and gave him a white envelope. Afterwards, my Dad asked him what the envelope was all about. He said it was a personal cash gift to the co to show his familys appreciation. My Dad who is an ex elder himself, couldnt believe what he had just seen. All done in front of people DURING the meeting when he could be observed. I`m pleased to say my Dad was disgusted!
i have just finished an article misquotes, deception and lies and would like your comments, proof reading, and any other examples that you think are important to add.
most of these already appear on jwfacts.com within specific articles, but it is more powerful seeing them included together.
there have also been a number of requests over the years for such a collection.
Just sent this to my `in` Dad, he doesnt like looking at apostate stuff, so i entitled the emailed link "Guess where the gorgeous woman in the paradise book came from?" hee hee! That should get his attention!
Thankyou for JW Facts Paul, keep the hostage rescue going!
check out this arriving in april:.
what bible principles apply to the useof cell phones while attending christian meetings and sharing in the ministry?.
for everything there is an appointed time.
Maybe they`ll tell us in the KM to consider being "folders" instead of "scrunchers" to save the WT gazillions
i've been playing around with wt statistics recently, helped by the great data available on jwfacts.com.
i wanted to share somehting with the community, maybe you've seen something like this before.. continuing the trend of decline seen during the last 30 years, i was able to extrapolate the year when wt growth might finally end.
if trends continue, we may only have to wait about 8 more years, 9 years to see it reported if the wt decides to report it at all, to see publisher growth end and possibly reverse.. the graph shows the annual growth rate of average publishers during the last 31 years.
"from plenty to empty in 2020"
we had our special assembly day this weekend.. what the district overseer stated in his talk totally stunned me, and made me feel sick to my stomach.
he said, "christ is directing us through the governing body, and we cannot get holy spirit except through them!".
i do not wish to reveal all my thoughts on his statement, but i pray to god that it acts as a wake-up call to at least some of the audience.. suffice to say that the gb is now the mediator to our mediator, and from now on, i will have to pray for holy spirit through the name of the gb!!.
Romans 8:26-27
English Standard Version (ESV)
26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.
Does this now mean that the Holy Spirit needs to ask mother for permission to help people in times of weakness?...
GoneAwol...for good
your relationship with god will then be like that of those christians to whom paul wrote: you do not belong to yourselves, for you were bought with a price.
for example, the comments jesus made about one.
master, jesus christ.1 cor.
I`m pasting my reply from Blondies other double post cos it felt lonely on the other one! Thankyou Blondie!
Loved the mention in para.7
"God has in his undeserved kindness
imparted to all of us gifts, assets, abilities,
or talents that we can use to benefit
fellow believers". Is that a back door mention of money?...
your relationship with god will then be like that of those christians to whom paul wrote: you do not belong to yourselves, for you were bought with a price.
for example, the comments jesus made about one.
master, jesus christ.1 cor.
Thankyou Blondie!
Loved the mention in para.7
"God has in his undeserved kindness
imparted to all of us gifts, assets, abilities,
or talents that we can use to benefit
fellow believers". Is that a back door mention of money?...
"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
........and why did we have to remain standing for announcements after the song? Control!!
"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
"please take your seats".....take em where?....into the carpark? ...home?
cant remember the song - "like bees that were molested"...eh?
illustration in a talk followed by "its a bit like that today"
"likewise today"
one that drove me nuts at arsemblies - "can all those who are able please stand and sing blah blah" - yeah, lets bring attention to the fact that some are infirm or in a wheelchair. Lets remind those that struggle each day with illness or have had a tragic accident that perhaps has resulted in depression, that they are no longer as mobile as the rest of us!
sorry about the rant. One young sister in a wheelchair dreaded arsemblies because of that.
