If sfpw is just ringing on doorbells and running away, why are we answering the door? How about next time he/ she / it posts, NOBODY ANSWERS! Tumble weed. Nadda. Nothing. Like a fish seeing the bait and ignoring it.
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excellent material can be found within the reasoning book, page 328, para.2, 3. occasionally, i see posters make presumptuous comments like, "all you need is the bible", or, "i'm born-again, so there's no need for spiritual assistance from another christian", or,"i'm saved", or my favorite, "jesus talks to me directly.
" on one hand, i can't be overly critical of such ones because they do attempt to read and understand the bible on their own.
(acts 17:11) not to mention they're generally peaceable folks, just self-misguided when erroneously believing that they can go it alone.
If sfpw is just ringing on doorbells and running away, why are we answering the door? How about next time he/ she / it posts, NOBODY ANSWERS! Tumble weed. Nadda. Nothing. Like a fish seeing the bait and ignoring it.
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220,000 views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id18qonjzu4.
Outlaw - He's bin wa?*%ng fer that lorng, his grown a beard an lost his darn hair..
most of the time i just lurk .
lots of times throughout the day.
however, something has come up that i would like some advice on, especially from members who were exiting the jw religion with young children.. .
Hi SnailsPace2!
The best thing any parent can give to their children is a childhood. A good honest normal childhood. But only you as a parent can give this, not grandparents or any other family member.
Very early on when me and my wife left, the first thing that the G parents asked was "can we take them to the meetings sometimes?" Our answer was a heavily stressed NO. No meetings, no talking about meetings, no 'such and such says hello'.
We even went so far as to say that contact with our children depends on you doing this for us. We got past the shunning thing straight away by putting our own parental conditions on everything. You must get in there first.
I am happy to say, the G parents are now into their own fade with my Mum in law missing all meetings since this June.
You never know, they may start asking you questions about this controlling cult. All the best!
GA
I'm hoping everyone on this planet evolves better and more accurate bullshit radar......
i think there are many that still want to believe in a god but just aren't sure.. personally, do you believe in a god?.
are you a "spiritual" person?.
My 7 year old daughter was asked at end of class on friday to put her hands together and recite the lords prayer along with the rest of the tykes. She puts her hand up and asks the teacher "who is god?" The teacher replied "god is what you want god to be" So she tells the teacher " ok, i'll be praying to spongebob then"
god. Who's he again?....
GA
i understand that they claim to have the responsibility to preach to every corner of the earth, so they can encourage armageddon to come quickly.
(matthew 24:14 "and this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
what rationale do they have, for keeping track of their hours and literature placements?
How do you get a person to do things that they would normaly shy away from? Its the carrot and the stick! They need a gauge to measure 'spirituality' and then they can be rewarded with responsibilities. Everyone loves them!
Or have them taken away...mmm, everyone is suspicious of you and avoids you as your lack of spirituality may tarnish them....
There you have it. A willing slave of the mind. Easy.
dear forumites, i need your advise please.. i would like to write a letter to the world headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses regarding a subject that i've published an article recently.
i would like to draw the attention of the gb to said article, which i will send in print form (therefore, no attention would be drawn to the website where it was published).. naturally, because i am a jehovah's witness in good standing in the congregation and what i'll be discussing in my letter will be a dissenting view from the official doctrine/practice, i want to protect my identity and i don't want to be harassed by elders or subjected to any sort of judicial investigation.
nevertheless, i would be very interested in reading their response (if any) to my letter.. how can i do that?
Open a PO box? They can be rented quite cheaply here in Uk.
GA
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
Mmm. I'm sorry you felt the need to bail out on us. I was enjoying the discussion. I hope you find what you're searching for. I honestly believe that you are searching as you wouldnt have come here.
To search for answers is good. To say a particular group has the answers is dishonest and misleading. I do hope you come back and answer some of questions that still remain.
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
Emeth: thanks for this discussion. The answer you gave was a bit fluffy though.
Did Jesus approve more of a person who gave out of her all, or did he approve of those who gave a teeny tiny fraction of the riches they had accumulated?
The same with the Samaritan man. Jesus was asked by a man well versed in the law "what should i do to gain everlasting life?". Jesus replied to love neighbour as yourself, giving the Samaritan parable.
Did Jesus say only to help those with the same faith?
My point is that to help only jws first and then perhaps others is scripturaly wrong and also moraly wrong. It doesnt even feel right or sound right. Everyone is deserving of help.
Yes?
http://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
Ok, looking after your own. Fair enough. The point many are making here though is this:
How many bloodied, desperate, dying people do the jws have to walk/drive/fly past in their goal to help the chosen nation? And what about money thats left over from helping your own? Where does that go?
The widows mite. Jesus found more favour with 2 small coins being given to charity because it was all she had. The GB have billions. A surplus. More than they need.
Was Jesus wrong?