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  I have a question.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.

  wow, that's really, really, dumb.

  to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.

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  GoneAwol

  Fisherman: "Too many things"

  I`m not asking for ALL your experiences that make you a lover of god.

  Just one. One little wafer.....then I too will love your god.
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  I have a question.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.

  wow, that's really, really, dumb.

  to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.

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  GoneAwol

  Fisherman: "I am convinced though that he is a loving God. I choose to trust him for better or for worse."

  Convinced by what exactly?
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  I have a question.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.

  wow, that's really, really, dumb.

  to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.

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  GoneAwol

  Fisherman: "don't tell God what you like He should do. He knows."
  God knows everything? You sure? Yet he couldnt find Adam and Eve after they sinned? For someone who has everything under control as part of his `universal sovereignty plan` you would have thought he could find a naked guy under a tree..... Wake up!! The bible was written by PEOPLE!!!!!!
  
  Gen 3:8 That evening they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden; and they hid themselves among the trees. 9 The Lord God called to Adam, “Why are you hiding?”[a]
  10 And Adam replied, “I heard you coming and didn’t want you to see me naked. So I hid.”
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  JW jailed for £8million investment fraud - UK

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/he told investors that his status as a jehovah’s witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.. teesside crown court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.some had since died with the stress of the county durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.a third man the crown said was involved, anthony kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in new zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the uk to stand trial when he is released.. .

  full aricle at link.

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  GoneAwol

  Wow, know James and Gillian. Dont know the dad very well. I like this quote" the fraud was like a religion"

  James was always a bit flash but never thought he had this in him. Ah well, you never can tell.
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  Evolution and Atheism - please help

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not being familiar with either, my question is:.

  what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.

  i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..

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  GoneAwol

  Over the years, religion changes its opinion on teachings yes, but usually its a forced change perhaps from a legal perspective ( think Bulgaria) Its not very often you have a religious leader say "sorry we got that bit wrong, this is version 2 and its much better" and they never say why a teaching has been changed, just mask it as new light.

  Science is always subject to other scientists who review whats being presented and re examine it for holes and weaknesses. When a hypotheses is presented it is tested again and again. These ideas are only kept if supported by testable evidence. The unsupportable ideas are discarded. That is the core of science.

  I completely undestand about some scientists being dishonest, especialy if they get recognition out of it, but the core methods will always find them out and they are exposed.

  I think it comes down to trust. Religion or science. I wouldnt jump off a building without a parachute. Overlapping generations. Take your pick.
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  Again: Where is Jesus?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower of december 2015 reports the following reaction of a family with four teenagers in the country of rwanda with the publication of the nwt, and how grateful they were for it.

  the wt magazine said: .

  things changed when the new world translation in their language became available.

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  GoneAwol

  Jehoovah hasnt translated or printed any bibles. Why thank him? Just using your superb logic Hip....
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  Evolution and Atheism - please help

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not being familiar with either, my question is:.

  what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.

  i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..

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  GoneAwol

  The Rebel: "The world is full of science books that contradict past science, yet they all attempted to explain the world around us and like the bible we're considerd truth at the time of writing"

  Science writers update books as more information becomes available. Somethings are changed as we get closer to the truth. Thats what science is about, and peer reviews along with experiments ensure the truth is eventually learned.

  The bible, well, that just contradicts itself many many times over with no peer reviews and no chance to put anything right. It is what it is. Absolute rubbish.
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  Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking this for a while.

  even before the arc scandal.

  it seems no matter what, the org.

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  GoneAwol

  Fishyman:

  "JW do not have an army and they do not use legal proceedings or political power or any other means whatsoever to get back at entities or to protect themselves"

  https://www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-defends-its-investigation-into-jehovahs-witness-charity-in-the-court-of-appeal
  

  Read it Fishyman. They`ve been trying to get out of this commission for ages. Using all LEGAL MEANS possible!!! You know nothing about your own religion.
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  Do Witness children die from not taking blood?

  by juandefiero in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  yes - awake!

  1994 may 22 p.2 youths who put god first (3-15).

  "in former times thousands of youths died for putting god first.

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  GoneAwol

  Sorry Landy, my apologies. I dont get on this forum very often. Being involved with the blood issue with my own daughters can make one very emotive sometimes.

  I cant even begin to think why a person would sacrifice a blood relative. To let them die on purpose. On a misunderstood ancient word of some gnarley goat breeder.
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  Do Witness children die from not taking blood?

  by juandefiero in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  yes - awake!

  1994 may 22 p.2 youths who put god first (3-15).

  "in former times thousands of youths died for putting god first.

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  GoneAwol

  That may be as well now Landy, but here we're talking about the bloodguilt from past deaths. It drips a LOT!

  Can you honestly say you agree with the blood ban / fractions? Were those little lives worth the sacrifice to men Landy?

  Honest heartfelt answer please!