Posts by GoneAwol

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Evolution is a Fact #34 - Hiccups and Tadpoles

by cofty in

hiccups are a weird phenomena.

they are a combination of two involuntary actions - firstly a rapid inhalation of breath followed 35 milliseconds later by the glottis at the back of the throat suddenly closing off our airway.. our normal breathing is controlled by a "central pattern generator" in a small region of the brain stem close to the boundary with the spinal cord.

a signal is sent along the vagus and phrenic nerves resulting in a rhythmic contraction of muscles in chest, diaphragm and throat.. these nerves branch off right at the top of the spinal cord and follow a convoluted path through the chest cavity.

GoneAwol

Quarterback: "I'm not interested in it myself."

So, you're not interested in facts? Facts mean nothing to you? Your whole life is ruled and run by conjecture, superstition and fantasy?

Really? Think before you type a reply.......

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I went to see my Dr about the blood card issue

by purrpurr in

i booked a double appointment so that she wouldn't be rushed.

i explained that i'd been brought up in the jw's and woken up to what a load of shite it was.

i explained that they have changed the blood card and that the elders in the cong are being told to effectively force people into signing it.

GoneAwol

Purrpurr, have a look at my post from the other day, let me know what you think..ta

...In the interest of clarity, both my wife and daughter are registered nurses in the Uk.

To access medical records is a lengthy drawn out process, mostly because everything at the moment is being slowly transferred from paper to electronic. (system 1 or EMIS)

The max charge to access paper from NHS is £50. Electronic, if yours have been fully transferred, is £10. You have to pay this to get access. It can be more if practise is GMC or private. They can charge what they want.

Who you then give it to is up to you. (Why would you?)

If however you have no interest in looking at your own records, but still give permission on a jw/hlc form for them to gain access, it is ONLY access to immediate care notes, not the whole med file. ( ie a car crash victim.) The hlc would also have to pay the above costs to have a written copy.

No health professional is allowed to distribute your med info electronically without a power of attorney in place.

The hlc would not be allowed access to all records unless they went through legal channels. They would have to have a VERY good reason to obtain all your records even with your consent, eg power of attorney.

So, its not as simple as just signing over an nhs number and they have everything about you on tap.

If there is something to this letter, it would be interesting to say in the least how it pans out.

Hope the info is useful.

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Cognitive Dissonance is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.

by Sledracer in

cognitive dissonance is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.

this is what is wrong with me, i have a love hate relationship with the jw's.

GoneAwol

Sorry, my spelling today is atroshus....atrouchias......................terrible! Meant to say 'poison'. Duh

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Cognitive Dissonance is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.

by Sledracer in

cognitive dissonance is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.

this is what is wrong with me, i have a love hate relationship with the jw's.

GoneAwol

Its an awful process to go through, and some cope better than others. Or should I say, come to a quicker conclusion than others.

If there is poisen in the drinking water, however small an amount, would you drink it?

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Another Newbie

by Drifting Away in

jw
friends

hello, i have been lurking for a while, but discovered ttatt for about 8 months now.

i am trying to fade out, problem is i have a big family i would lose if i got df'ed or da,'ed myself.

my wife knows how i feel, and is not thrilled but i cant hide my feelings.

GoneAwol

Hi Drifting Away! Always trust your feelings. You have them for a reason. Take it easy, keep digging and learning. Welcome to the world of the real.

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2016-4-4-BOE!--Scanning and Sending Medical Records through Emails!

by Atlantis in

i was always under the impression that only "licensed" persons had the authority to do this.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

2016-4-4-boe scanning and sending medical records through emails!.

.. this is the last paragraph of the main body of the boe without the top and bottom, which revealed the congregation and information which could expose our source.. .. "therefore, brothers, i appeal to you to make sure that a copy of the new add for every publisher is kept in alphabetical order, perhaps using an a-z filing system to expedite it's location and so that it can be kept neat, clean and legible for scanning and emailing for up to 4 years, after which a new copy should be completed.

GoneAwol

In the interest of clarity, both my wife and daughter are registered nurses in the Uk.

To access medical records is a lengthy drawn out process, mostly because everything at the moment is being slowly transferred from paper to electronic. (system 1 or EMIS)

The max charge to access paper from NHS is £50. Electronic, if yours have been fully transferred, is £10. You have to pay this to get access. It can be more if practise is GMC or private. They can charge what they want.

Who you then give it to is up to you. (Why would you?)

If however you have no interest in looking at your own records, but still give permission on a jw/hlc form for them to gain access, it is ONLY access to immediate care notes, not the whole med file. ( ie a car crash victim.) The hlc would also have to pay the above costs to have a written copy.

No health professional is allowed to distribute your med info electronically without a power of attorney in place.

The hlc would not be allowed access to all records unless they went through legal channels. They would have to have a VERY good reason to obtain all your records even with your consent, eg power of attorney.

So, its not as simple as just signing over an nhs number and they have everything about you on tap.

If there is something to this letter, it would be interesting to say in the least how it pans out.

Hope the info is useful.

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Another JW Literature Trolly Experience

by Athanasius in

this morning i stopped at dollar general to get a cheap container for waste paper.

it was 11:30 am and there were two jw literature trolleys parked near the store and manned by three jws, on old man in a rolling chair, a 30 something man, and 30 something woman.

as i walked by them i glanced at the their literature rack and proceeded into the store.. i was in the store for 20 minutes and made my purchase.

GoneAwol

Maybe when you`re bibble was thrown together, the weather was awful and it was too humid, cos jeehobgoblin couldn't be arsed with doing weather miracles....

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The two elders threaten my sister again

by opusdei1972 in

as i reported here in this forum, some time ago, my sister was constantly harried by two elders so as to be submitted to a judiciary committee for apostasy.

these two elders were constantly hounding her in the street when she walks to go to her job.

so she had to send them a notary letter in which she wrote that she would attend the judiciary committee only with her attorney.

GoneAwol

Our elders wanted a dissociation letter off us, 2 years after we stopped going.

I politely and calmly told them that if any one brother was willing to get on the platform and mention our names in any way, shape, or form, that I would be contacting my solicitor, and suing that particular brother for broadcasting our personal names in a public place without my written consent.

(uk right to privacy act includes any private information not to be disclosed without express consent unless it is deemed a public interest, ie government bodies. Think the human rights act is similar) ref: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-rights/civil-rights/human-rights/what-rights-are-protected-under-the-human-rights-act/your-right-to-respect-for-private-and-family-life/

Its worth mentioning that it would be hard to prove a whole body of elders was complicit in making such an announcement, not to mention time consuming. One elder is easier to target in the instance of a public announcement being made. It also serves to put the elder off from doing so. It makes him think twice.

What the elders want from you is some type of closure. They hate loose ends, because it makes them appear powerless. By going down this route, you have stopped them trying to collect info on, stalking, asking other people about you etc, because they know its a waste of time.

It worked for us, not a peep for 7 years so far.

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Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

by Formerbrother in

http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

GoneAwol

So all this bs you`ve just spouted is from a security brother's "wind"? Starting to make more sense....

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Prophecy vs. Profits ...See

by Perry in

while we had our eyes fixated on our "one-time" idol the watchtower and their false prophecies like the generation of 1914 that wouldn't pass away, 1975 etc.

; a number of real prophecies were unfolding.

we just weren't taught to look for them.