"And I am a previously disfellowshipped person, and yes, the intention of DF is loving. Not short term, make you comfortable, but long term, save your life loving."
Just a little history in the AWAKE! of JW disfellowshipping. You will be surprised to learn what JW,s used to think about it. New light perhaps?
So between 1947 when this article was written by the then GB, and 1952 when disfellowshipping was started by JW`s, what changed the GB`s mind? Was it god, or was god wrong in the first place?
GoneAwol
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The wt has now changed Jesus definition of neighboor
by poopie inthe man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
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The wt has now changed Jesus definition of neighboor
by poopie inthe man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
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GoneAwol
Jw's get caught up trying to define who qualifies as a neighbour. The argument is redundant.
Jesus taught that the Samaritan man who helped the beaten person was the true neighbour.
YOU should be the good neighbour. No one else can be judged as one or not. Its what YOU do to help anyone.
Sheesh! And i'm a full on atheist!
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No more pain sorrow or crying in new system!!!!!!!
by atomant in"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
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GoneAwol
So what happens when a naturally occuring earthquake or tsunami kills relatives or loved ones?
Do natural disasters happen because Eve ate an apple? No.
Wether you are perfect or not, you will die if a widow maker gets you in a storm, or freeze to death in a snowmaggedon, or fall down a fault in the earth.
We will always cry over dead relatives. No such thing as perfection.
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JW Expressions We Hate
by Socrateswannabe ini was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.
" who talks like that?
they must be relics of the fred franz era.
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GoneAwol
satans system: as opposed to REALITY!
self abuse: no, its personal me fun time!
the right heart condition: brainwashed already!
we`re jehovahs witnesses!: You`re stood beside a stoopid cart with a painted on smile. Who else would you be? DER!
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jw deny rumours moving UK HQ to Chelmsford project has collaspe
by Aleph inhttp://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-deny-rumours-uk-headquarters/story-27899763-detail/story.html.
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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GoneAwol
Thats it. Run away. Because you have NO answer to basic reason. But then I suppose, your god did grant you free will to not use your critical thinking skills.
All the best.
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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GoneAwol
Fisherman.....
"because of my faith in him based on solid evidence"
You can believe what the bible says all you like, prophets and all. That is not evidence for an existing god. And certainly nowhere near enough to say you have a close personal relationship with him.
Again, where is this 'evidence' that you speak of? I truly want to draw close to this god, only he doesnt answer any prayer that i or others have muttered for me, and he wont or cant help a single starving child.
He cant stop earthquakes or tsunamis, or does he turn away and close his eyes when these things happen?
This 'god' of whom people speak of is your imaginary friend that hands you a blanky every time you get scared of dying.
What is your personal, not scripture quotes, your personal evidence? Help me come back to god......
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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GoneAwol
Fisherman:
"When people tell me that God has not given them any evidence to base their faith upon, I am dumbfounded. God gives solid evidence to people to experience"
WOW! Hey everyone! Fisherman has found the evidence for God. The very thing we`ve all (even us atheists) been looking for most of our lives!
So now Mr Fisherman. You gonna share that tidbit of info with us? Or you gonna be unloving to us, your fellow humans? SERIOUS QUESTION MR FISHERMAN!
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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GoneAwol
Formerbrother...
Why do you, personally, need to adhere to a certain religion? Have you studied what a secular life might be like? Do you understand what a humanitarian thinks and how they live life?
This is a genuine question. Why does your need for something faith based consume you so much?
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Alan Rickman's Passing
by TipsyMangoTea inalan rickman, best known to my generation as prof. severus snape from the harry potter film franchise, has passed away due to cancer at the age of 69.. growing up with a witness mother, anything related to science fiction and fantasy was looked down upon, so, naturally, i was a rebel rebel (oh david bowie...).. just wanted to let any potterheads know the news and that even if you feel like you'll never be free of the deadly watchtower, you're not alone and there's hope.. always..
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GoneAwol
My fave from Robin Hood - Prince of thieves.