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  I informed my family that the reason I will not be attending the memorial is because I believe Jesus is my mediator..

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyway i got kind of cornered this morning about why i wouldn’t be attending the memorial.

  i said i’m sorry i just can’t go because i believe that jesus is my mediator.

  i guess you can imagine the conversation that ensued.

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  Strong work! The entire memorial makes no sense even if witnesses arent in the New Covenant, then there is no other means of forviveness for them. Not to mention, when you think about it, its just plain creepy everybody has to go to a building and touch a plate of crackers and glass of wine that they refuse to partake of, and then say that that ceremony in anyway is how the apostles had the meal with Jesus.
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  I’m so sad . . .

  by HappyBlessedFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my husband asked me if i’m going to the memorial.

  i said “no”.. he asked would it be okay if i take the kids.

  “i would prefer that you didn’t”.. why can’t he see the lies!

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  Teach the kids critical thinking and let then have open information to judge things by, the rest works itself out imho.
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  How a true Lords Memorial is done. . .

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://vimeo.com/331344272 .

  for those interested to see how the free bible students conduct the memorial service for the lords evening meal.

  also before there is an actual meal with lamb served and home cooked food where everybody gets to enjoy the meal and fellowship together.

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  https://vimeo.com/331344272

  For those interested to see how the Free Bible Students conduct the memorial service for the Lords Evening Meal. Also before there is an actual meal with Lamb served and home cooked food where everybody gets to enjoy the meal and fellowship together. Then in the talk it is made clear, there is one mediator for Christians and partaking is the outward demonstration of faith in Jesus sacrifice. In this way we can be anointed with spirit and then Christ the Lambs blood can be offered in place of our sins.
  
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  The JW funeral sales pitch . . .

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so recently i attended a jw funeral.

  i've been awake and faded for a bit now and so i already have realized the strangeness that is a jw funeral/memorial talk because its basically just a sales pitch to those attending that are non jws using a twist on the christian resurrection hope and barely speaks about the departed.

  here's the thing that i noticed the that got me wondering, the pitch, at least at this talk, is given under the guise that it is what the fallen person wanted to be spoken at the funeral and as such its all about the "secondary" "great crowds" class hope.. so my question is had anybody ever attended the funeral talk for someone who claimed to be in the 144,000???.

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  Interesting! Thank you!
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  The JW funeral sales pitch . . .

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so recently i attended a jw funeral.

  i've been awake and faded for a bit now and so i already have realized the strangeness that is a jw funeral/memorial talk because its basically just a sales pitch to those attending that are non jws using a twist on the christian resurrection hope and barely speaks about the departed.

  here's the thing that i noticed the that got me wondering, the pitch, at least at this talk, is given under the guise that it is what the fallen person wanted to be spoken at the funeral and as such its all about the "secondary" "great crowds" class hope.. so my question is had anybody ever attended the funeral talk for someone who claimed to be in the 144,000???.

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  nobody eh???
  
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  The JW funeral sales pitch . . .

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so recently i attended a jw funeral.

  i've been awake and faded for a bit now and so i already have realized the strangeness that is a jw funeral/memorial talk because its basically just a sales pitch to those attending that are non jws using a twist on the christian resurrection hope and barely speaks about the departed.

  here's the thing that i noticed the that got me wondering, the pitch, at least at this talk, is given under the guise that it is what the fallen person wanted to be spoken at the funeral and as such its all about the "secondary" "great crowds" class hope.. so my question is had anybody ever attended the funeral talk for someone who claimed to be in the 144,000???.

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  They did actually say she would want the funeral talk to tell people about the resurrection hope, and who knows maybe she actually did, who am I to say?

  But still I am curious as to if maybe any old timers on here or people who have had bethel experience have attended a funeral talk for someone claiming to be part of the 144,000?? The talk would have to be different I imagine.
  
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  The JW funeral sales pitch . . .

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so recently i attended a jw funeral.

  i've been awake and faded for a bit now and so i already have realized the strangeness that is a jw funeral/memorial talk because its basically just a sales pitch to those attending that are non jws using a twist on the christian resurrection hope and barely speaks about the departed.

  here's the thing that i noticed the that got me wondering, the pitch, at least at this talk, is given under the guise that it is what the fallen person wanted to be spoken at the funeral and as such its all about the "secondary" "great crowds" class hope.. so my question is had anybody ever attended the funeral talk for someone who claimed to be in the 144,000???.

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  So recently I attended a JW funeral. I've been awake and faded for a bit now and so I already have realized the strangeness that is a JW funeral/memorial talk because its basically just a sales pitch to those attending that are non JWs using a twist on the Christian resurrection hope and barely speaks about the departed. Here's the thing that I noticed the that got me wondering, the pitch, at least at this talk, is given under the guise that it is what the fallen person wanted to be spoken at the funeral and as such its all about the "secondary" "great crowds" class hope.

  So my question is had anybody ever attended the funeral talk for someone who claimed to be in the 144,000???

  I would think this would have to completely change the formula of the talk. They cant say that the person wanted to be on paradise earth and then throw the same sales pitch at the audience saying that's what the person wanted the speaker to talk about. They also can't even say that we know we will see them again, and they will be young again, or that they are just sleeping now, because according to JW doctrine all anointed after 1918 are immediately resurrected to heavenly life.

  I have now doubt they still try to leverage a persons death as a recruiting tool but I just wonder how they approach it when the person claimed to be in the new covenant and anointed???
  
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  A clue about dropping of reporting of numbers?

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey, did anyone notice this point from the wt study article for this past weekend (paragraph 2):.

  certainly, jehovah is pleased to see that so many attend the memorial.

  (luke 22:19) however, jehovah is not primarily concerned with the number of people who come.

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  IDK, I dont see them ever getting rid of time reports. Its the spiritual yardstick they use to measure the "faith" of the members and anybody they want to appoint. It also keeps a leash of ppl and keeps them feeling guilty and constantly comparing themselves as inadequate. However I do see them finding ways to hide the numbers that negatively reflect on the Orgs claims.
  
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  Beroean Pickets writer speaks out to explain what opened his eyes as a JW

  by nonjwspouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember reading this site and wondering how much of ttatt the writer(s) knew.

  now i just found these series of you tube videos by the writer.

  leaving jehovah's witnesses: "religion is a snare and a racket".

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  BereanThinker7

  Eric has outstanding videos
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  V.Kalin and "Crisis of conscience" R.Franze

  by Dmitry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in this video, v.kalin talks, that "he read" crisis of conscience "and the book is kept in his safe!".

  if someone does not know, kalin is the coordinator of the branch committee in russia.. https://youtu.be/qh4vdhr0ooy.

  is it clear why jehovah turned away from the russian jw?.

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  Can anybody translate this? The youtube auto captions are terrible. I highly doubt this is a video with a lot of references to dancing, golden figurines, and thermostats . . .