Posts by Hadriel

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New CSA Questionare

by william hahn in

hey guys in the just leaked csa form for reporting child abuse cases in the footnotes there is reference to a elder position in every bethel called a "safeguarding elder.

does anyone have info on this position?

thx.

Hadriel

...well it ain't about "safeguarding" children.

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Changes & Clarifications on our belief. DOMINO EFFECT blamed for late coming into print

by TheWonderofYou in

in the august broadcast bro splane explains this point deeper.. when the brothers are sitting together and joyfully speaking about clarification of jw belief, they often encounter and deal with that "domino-effect" when one scripture has effects on others.

so all changes are carefully considered before they come into print, one after the other but late.. lately he mentions the "godfathers" brother jaracz , barr as good examples of reading the bible progressivly, they were very progressive at there time.

what ever this could mean he did not explain it?.

Hadriel

The very "Domino Effect" that they discuss excludes them from being God's channel. If he were using them wouldn't he, that being God, have already sorted out the dominos????

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Fading: The One Year Mark

by Hadriel in

after fading for roughly a year now there's some good and some bad.

the bad.

it is becoming increasingly difficult to go to meetings.

Hadriel

Yes the immediate fam is out. Yes there has been positive things but lots of headache too. You're not alone is the point.

My biggest suggestion would be to get involved with things in your community. Take a vacation stay busy and the guilt and shame we feel from this terrible indoctrination slowly recedes and you begin to find happiness.

There really hasn't been a magic formula other than that.

For those in your family that are in, what I did is said well here are 5 things I found to be absolutely factual, you are welcome to prove them false, but if true you can understand why I feel the way I do.

That seemed to be very powerful.

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Fading: The One Year Mark

by Hadriel in

after fading for roughly a year now there's some good and some bad.

the bad.

it is becoming increasingly difficult to go to meetings.

Hadriel

You know Anders I was thinking that was the case!

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Fading: The One Year Mark

by Hadriel in

after fading for roughly a year now there's some good and some bad.

the bad.

it is becoming increasingly difficult to go to meetings.

Hadriel

Forgot to add in the process I got one of my relatives out!!!

Probably one of the best things of the process. It has helped tremendously. I'm a fairly tough bird as they say but this whole deal can make you needy right quick. Having one of your own that you can share things with now has been quite refreshing.

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Fading: The One Year Mark

by Hadriel in

after fading for roughly a year now there's some good and some bad.

the bad.

it is becoming increasingly difficult to go to meetings.

Hadriel

After fading for roughly a year now there's some good and some bad.

The Bad

It is becoming increasingly difficult to go to meetings. Very difficult to control eye rolls, shoulder shrugs and shaking your head in disbelief of the things you're hearing. Children find it difficult to branch out to others. Very hard for them. Can't lie it is a long arduous process. Increasingly have the feeling it might be better to just cut bait but the unfortunate reality of having really your family ripped from you keeps you from pulling the trigger.

The Good

Initially your mind tells you it's all nonsense but there's still the temptation what if there's some shred of truth to it. However that as of months ago has been very fleeting. You become so certain that the entire ideology is false that you give it less and less thought. At this point it is comical. I will say this as the view gets further in the distance you see more and more from your new perspective that you realize how well this organization is really run. They are masterful at controlling information and well minds.

In the end I feel pretty stupid at times that I was ever swept up in the whole thing. Sure I was born in but I had plenty of opportunities to fact check but like most I didn't for fear of reprisal upon asking questions. Although I will probably always have some measure of activism the likelihood of continuing at a regular pace seems like only giving more time to this dangerous religion.

I'm still the same person. Not much has changed if at all.

Given all that we have it's time to simply be a good human being and live life.

H

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Network / Datacenter issues causing high latency

by Simon in

that means "the site is slow but it's not my fault and there's nothing i can do about it".

well, i've upped the instance configuration to see if that will help.. i'm sure google are working on the issue.

probably not by randomly wiggling cables and turning things off and on like i solve network problems but hey, they're the experts..

Hadriel

@slimboyfat - I won't get into all the logistics of why but @simon is doing the right thing. Not sure about the last incarnation but w/ labors of love a lot of it comes down to time and manageability too. As to speed in the no so distant future I think you'll be pleased by what's in the hopper etc.

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My heart's not in it

by What is Truth? in

jw
friends

you know how when your asked to talk about something your not interested in how annoying it is, or difficult to debate something from the opposite side of your view.

after learning ttatt i've come to regard the nonsense the org spouts as quite evil then to have to give parts about how great it is makes me hate it that much more.. story aside, what might you say to the elders to get them to dismiss it or get off your back if you told them your heart's not in it any more?.

not the obvious it's a stupid hypocritical cult that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth..

Hadriel

Claim mental strain. Say you're emotionally drained and are having a difficult time with life in general. Tell them you're working through it and just need some space.

That's the best way to draw back without much suspicion.

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30 Million Images of Child Abuse (England)

by amanamen in

i wonder how many j dubs will get pulled down in this.

this is really somethin.. just the tip of the iceberg if you ask me.

here is the link.. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/police-find-300-million-images-of-child-abuse-in-major-anti-paed/.

Hadriel

This link should work better.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/police-find-300-million-images-of-child-abuse-in-major-anti-paed/

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Reinstated and then fade

by Zeds Dead in

i'm a man - d'fd for 2.5 years now and divorced.

find it hard to date girls out here only due to always having this secret i carry with me that i was once a jw and the thought of telling a girl one day why my family don't acknowledge me as even alive.. recently been thinking of trying to get reinstated and then do a quick fade as i cant go back to the whole jw stuff.. easier said than done and was turned down twice by elders after an immediate attempt 2 years ago.. my motivation for trying would be 1.

) to see if family make contact and 2) play the last hand in their game and give the middle finger.. interested in viewpoints?.

Hadriel

@Zeds with the latest info at the convention if you are inactive and doing anything they disapprove of they may shun you anyway.