With logic like this no wonder JWs are the poorest religion in the USA.
Wow! I knew they didn't do that well financially. But I had no idea they were at the very bottom of the line.
Posts by liam
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51You Could Be Stuck in a University When Your Parent Dies. Convention Day 2 Video
by liam inthe governing body is going all out at this years convention.
they are still discouraging university education.
i guess the end must be real close .
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You Could Be Stuck in a University When Your Parent Dies. Convention Day 2 Video
by liam inthe governing body is going all out at this years convention.
they are still discouraging university education.
i guess the end must be real close .
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The Governing Body is going all out at this years Convention. They are still DISCOURAGING University Education.
I guess the End must be Real Close
In the video, a brother was contemplating taking an opportunity to go to a university. Even people in the hall encouraged him to go. But instead, he chose a trade school to get a job quicker. Then his dad died. Because he already had a job, he was able to care for his family. The video claims that if he had gone to a university, he would have still would have been in school when his family needed him.
Then they go on to say that listening to Jehovah was a blessing. Typical propaganda. Family tragedy can strike when you’re in a trade school too. So basically, don’t make any long-term plans, because tragedy can happen at any time?
By that logic, Bethel shouldn’t make long-term plans either, since a branch could be banned in an instant.
As usual, they used someone’s personal tragedy in a very specific situation to “prove” their rules are best. Leveraging the emotional intensity of their tragedy rather than logic to convey their point. Are you telling me there are no good stories where someone went to a university?
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1klmzv5/convention_day_2_video_you_could_be_stuck_in_a/
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Beware of PIMO'S in the Congregation. Convention day 1 video
by liam inthe governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.
they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.
the mom is fighting cancer.
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Anony Mous
Once those doubts start nagging, it's hard to get them under control again.
Once the doubts start nagging......................it's over brother.
It's only a matter of time before you go down the rabbit hole and wake up
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Beware of PIMO'S in the Congregation. Convention day 1 video
by liam inthe governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.
they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.
the mom is fighting cancer.
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LongHairGal
So, it’s the enemy from within.
Yes LHG, the Governing Body knows that PIMOs are walking among them.
They are coming after them.
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Beware of PIMO'S in the Congregation. Convention day 1 video
by liam inthe governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.
they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.
the mom is fighting cancer.
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The Governing Body is now focusing on those that are PIMOs in the congregation, trying to wake up PIMIs.
They have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son. The mom is fighting cancer. The dad’s brother and his wife move back into the area after buying a house nearby.
Buying a house is the first setup to suggest they are PIMO, since they’re excited about it and say it’s “everything we wanted.”
Then, the brother’s wife talks to the mom with cancer. She tells her she still looks gorgeous and takes a selfie to prove it. It was actually a sweet gesture. Then she says the mom’s story is something people want to hear and that there are online groups for emotional support. The mom thinks about it later while crying. Then she reflects on Jesus being tempted by Satan to throw himself off a high place so angels would catch him—bringing attention to himself as the Messiah. WTF. It’s not even applicable. The mom decides not to draw attention to herself. This is the second setup to suggest the brother’s wife is PIMO. The message: going outside the congregation for support is selfish.
Next, the brother and his wife is having a conversation with the son, he mentions thinking about going to Bethel. They’re not happy. They respond with something like, “They said the end could come tomorrow when we were in high school. We’re still here. Look at us, we’re Witnesses too, but we have a comfortable life.” This is the third setup to indicate they are PIMO. They compare this to Jesus being tempted by Satan to turn stones into bread or accept the kingdoms of the world. The things the “world” offers.
Then the finale. The brother sends the dad a text: “Read this article. It’ll change your view of the organization.” The dad drives over to confront him. The convo goes something like:
Dad: “Why would you send that to me? You know that’s all lies.”
Brother: “How do you know they’re lies if you haven’t even read it?” (An excellent question.)
Dad: “How could you? The truth saved our lives.” (Ignores the question and gives an emotional response.)
The dad drives off. They compare this to Jesus rejecting Satan during the wilderness temptations. Which I find interesting because Jesus actually listened to Satan’s accusations and reasoned using the scriptures. The dad didn’t hear one accusation and didn’t quote a single scripture.
The video ends. One interesting thing from the talk afterward was this question: “How do you know when to listen and help, and when to reject people like those in the video?” They use Jude 22: “Also, continue showing mercy to some who have doubts.” So helping ones with doubts is ok but not when they are adamant or claim to know something.
Just wanted to share. If you’re trying to wake people up, this info might be useful. Basically: don’t directly confront. That triggers defensiveness that has been reinforced or installed by this kind of content. Instead, act like you have doubts and be patient.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1kktnq7/convention_day_1_video_watch_out_for_pimos/
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The JW's are suing Mark O'Donnell in civil court for millions.So protect the pedos, and suit the whistelblowers? Shame on this cult!
by WingCommander inlink to his announcement on www.jwchildabuse.org:.
https://www.jwchildabuse.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-editor-of-jw-child-abuse-website-for-millions/.
if anyone needed any further proof of how low and despicable this cult has become, here's more evidence.
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There is two ways this can go
1st observation by baddog4x
Here's how the law likely sees it:
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Pennsylvania and Maryland Are Two-Party Consent States Both states require all parties to consent to the recording or interception of a private communication. This is central to the plaintiffs' claims under:
The Pennsylvania Wiretap Act
The Maryland Wiretap Act
Federal Wiretap Law (Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968)
In these jurisdictions, even if one person in the group gives you access to a private communication (like a Zoom call), that does not necessarily legalize listening in or recording it without the consent of all participants.
2. Post-Fact Removal Is Legally Irrelevant to Liability You're right to compare it to "unloading the gun after the shooting." Legally speaking, taking down a video after the alleged violation does not undo the wiretap or privacy breach. It's more about limiting damages than avoiding liability.
3. Defendant’s Defense: Journalist and Informant O'Donnell’s defense is built on:
Being invited by a whistleblower
Acting as a journalist
Not identifying the plaintiffs by name But this does not override the wiretap statutes if the meeting was legally considered "private" and "confidential," which it likely was—especially given it involved attorney-client privileged discussions.
2nd observation by Relative_Soil7886
TL;DR: JW congregations accuse ex-member and journalist Mark O’Donnell of illegally eavesdropping on a private meeting and spilling the beans online. He says he was invited, was acting as a reporter, and didn’t break any laws.
The Lawsuit: Twelve Jehovah’s Witness congregations are suing Mark O’Donnell, a former JW and well-known whistleblower/journalist. They claim he illegally accessed a private Microsoft Teams meeting between elders and attorneys (related to an ongoing grand jury investigation into child sex abuse coverups), and then disclosed confidential info in a YouTube interview and on Reddit.
Their Claims: They say O’Donnell violated federal and state wiretapping laws and invaded their privacy. They’re asking for $700,000+ in damages.
O’Donnell Response:
O’Donnell says:
He was invited to the meeting by a whistleblower who was a participant. • He joined openly, using his real phone number, and didn’t hide who he was. • He reported on what he heard in his capacity as a journalist, something he’s done for years to expose abuse in the org. • He took down the YouTube interview as soon as he was served with the lawsuit. • He didn’t name or identify any of the plaintiffs.
Case Status
Discovery (i.e., depositions and document review) will last 180 days. • Trial is tentatively scheduled for August 2025. • No expert witnesses expected. • Settlement might be discussed mid-discovery.
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Big Pharma knew, the vaccine was damaging hearts in young people and damaging life span in others.
by liam inexecutive order signed this morning.
prescription drugs reduced by 30-80 percent.
investigation by doge found out that other nations that were paying $100 dollars for a certain drug, americas were paying $1000 dollars or more for the same drug.
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Executive order signed this morning. Prescription Drugs reduced by 30-80 percent. Investigation by DOGE found out that other nations that were paying $100 dollars for a certain drug, Americas were paying $1000 dollars or more for the same drug.
Big Pharma has been ripping the American people for years.
This Executive order will save close to a Trillion dollars a year a via Medicare and Medicaid and illegals use of the programs.
I know many people who are paying $1500 for certain drugs on monthly basis. This executive order will help them.
When Covid Vaccines started, Pfizer knew within 3 months that 1225 Young people’s hearts were being damaged for life, plus had caused the death of several young people. They had warnings from the Israeli Ministry and also a Pediatric Group, and this information was sent all the way to Biden. But the Biden administration, rather than telling the American People what was happening to those taking the vaccine, choose to downplay the danger of the vaccine and proceeded to use Tik Tok and YouTube influencers to encourage the young people to continue to take the vaccine.Some influencers were getting up to $30,000 dollars a minute to encourage taking the vaccine.
What is also being found out is that some of the people who took the vaccine, and have experience no problems, are now experiencing some problems with kidney and heart failure. The vaccine may have some “Delayed” fatal effects, several years after the injection, depending on age, health, etc. We will see as the years go by what delayed effect it will have on those who took the vaccine and as of yet not suffered any effects. Remember also that there is no possibility of lawsuits, if your husband or wife dies because of delayed effects of the vaccines, because they were given immunity from lawsuits.
The Democrats have threaten to file a lawsuit to stop Trump from interfering in drug prices. I don’t think there’s anything they can really do about it.
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VE Day (victory in Europe) and the Generation.
by Slidin Fast ini am watching the celebrations of the 80th anniversary of ve day.
80 years since the defeat of nazi germany in 1945. i find the interviews of the stalwart men and women who played their part very moving.
these veterans speak with pride and sadness about their experiences, those they lost, those they fought alongside.
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All I can say is that it's SAD, that we as humans only live about 80 years and that's it.
Such a short life span doesn't allow us to gain much knowledge and use it to our advantage.
Imagine if we lived several millenniums before we started getting grey hair or wrinkles.
Organizations like the Watchtower wouldn't be able to scam younger generations.
We wouldn't have to worry about retirement.
I don't think religion would exist.
And you could be with the one you love for thousands of years instead of a measly 50 or so years.
But I guess that only happens somewhere over the Rainbow.
IF ONLY!
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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Letitia James may very well be driving a car with the CircuitCars logo very soon.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!
by liam init’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.
recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.
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Karter; Can they plead the 5th? Say nothing and own up to nothing?
They cannot plead the 5th. It's not a subpoena where they testify in court, it's a deposition. A legal process where a witness provides sworn testimony outside of court. As I posted above, it's part of the Discovery process
Discovery is a formal investigation allowing parties to find out more about the case. In a lawsuit, all named parties have the right to conduct Discovery. It will enable the parties to use facts and potential evidence to better define their strategies. In some cases, inforI don't think I care what "true believers" finally think (if they ever even hear about the cases). I hope the judgements strike WT hard and deep financially mation learned during discovery helps the opposing sides settle without having to go to trial.
DesirousOfChange; I don't think I care what "true believers" finally think (if they ever even hear about the cases). I hope the judgements strike WT hard and deep financially
That's exactly the point. Nothing will wake up True Believers. They have to want to wake up on their own.
But what's good about this is the publicity for the whole world to see the hypocrisy of the Religion. Plus it raises red flags for many people to avoid anything to do with the Watchtower.
no zombie; I believe the document stated August 28.
