Posts by Tallyman

But "reasonable people agree" (Judge Rutherford quote. heeee!), or at least reasonable people should agree that you don't have to agree with EVERYTHING a person/researcher/scholar says/prints/publishes...

Hell, I don't agree with EVERYTHING Richard Hoagland writes. He and I didn't see eye-to-eye years ago, on the original Enterprise board and had a little argument... but so the hell what! We're still friends. I did a transcript for him a few months after that.

There's plenty about which I still agree with him. He's made some fantastic observations. There's stuff you say I don't agree with, there's stuff AlanF says I don't agree with, and just about everyone else on this board... but I'm always willing to find some common ground.

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That recent letter- what a chuckle I got out of the reply to attorney Gersten's letter to NASA, by Edward J. Weiler Associate Administrator for Space Science:

NASA does not know of any statements by Sir Arthur C. Clarke that suggest "... pretty convincing proof of the existence of large forms of like on Mars,"

Yeah, right!
NASA named the daggumed NEW MISSION to Mars, "Odyssey". ___ in tribute to Sir Arthur C. Clarke's, "2001 - A Space Odyssey".

I saw that rocket blast off a couple of Saturdays ago.

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Face/Pyramids on Mars! What do you think?

by qwerty in

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the things you look into without the wt cynical mind behind every thought.. [ http://www.geocities.com/area51/6683/cydonia-face.html].

qwerty .

justa surfin!

Tallyman

...just can't let this thread wither on the vine

Here's a recent letter from an attorney to NASA about the enigmatic Mars Cydonian features... and NASA's enigmatic response:

* http://www.enterprisemission.com/letter.htm

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"1975" in 1969 TIME magazine article

by Tallyman in

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tried putting this up last night, but it didn't take.. .

dug this mag out of some attic boxes, and thought some here might find it interesting.. .

the time journalist makes some keen observations.. .

Tallyman

Over a year later, they disfellowshipped me for voting. My JW spouse turned me in for that sin.

JAVA,

No kidding!?

I've often thought of a different way I coulda made my exit from the Kult - I did make some noise, but here's what I would've (tried) to do.

Wait until the next presidential election. (a Big Election)
Contact a local TV reporter/journalist and tell him or her that you're planning to vote in the upcoming election, but that you are a jehovah Witness and your religion prohibits you from exercising your constitutional right to vote, and if you did vote, you would be Disfellowshipped-With-Extreme-Prejudice.

Convince the reporter that there's a story there.

Set it up. When you go down to the polls, have it arranged that the TV reporter will "interview" you on camera outside the building where you just cast your vote. (those TV reporters haunt the exit polls asking the citizens how they voted) Explain that this is your FIRST time voting and it was a thrill to do so, to exercise your Constitutional Right as an American citizen. etc.etc.

Collaborating with this reporter, and making sure the interview will be aired on that night's local television news, will ensure it will be seen by your local body of elders, or enough of the witnesses to where someone is going fink you out to the body of elders.

Tell the reporter, that soon, the 'fur will fly' and you'll be 'put on trial' for committing this "offense" and then once you are cast out of the Watchtower religion, the reporter can dig his/her teeth into this situation and interview you again on camera, and air the next segment of the story... about 'HOW DARE THE jEHOVAH'S WITNESSES EXPELL A MEMBER FOR SIMPLY EXERCISING THE RIGHT TO VOTE GUARANTEED TO EVERY CITIZEN!!!'

Get my drift?
The TV personality can turn it into an interesting human interest piece.You've given them a GOOD story. Their ratings increase. And best of all, you've got video footage aired to the public numerous times to use as EVIDENCE when you SUE THE HELL out of those Watchtower Muthas!
You'd have Public Outrage against the WTB&TS and the jWs banging on their doors... and you'd have a guaranteed favorable jury sitting in your trial as the Plaintiff against the WT.

Sure wisht I'd set something up like that when I made my exit.
I coulda made it into a Grand Exit... and also made some $$$ to compensate for the TWENTY FREEKING YEARS I flushed down the toilet.

Of course, anyone else out there, who hasn't made their exit from the Kult is free to use my idea. hint.hint.

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"1975" in 1969 TIME magazine article

by Tallyman in

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tried putting this up last night, but it didn't take.. .

dug this mag out of some attic boxes, and thought some here might find it interesting.. .

the time journalist makes some keen observations.. .

Tallyman

Ron Soliday was our circuit overseer at the time, and we talked privately about the consequences the organization would face if Armageddon didn't happen.

JAVA,

Yep. That's the kind of "1975 Talk" which was circulating all over the place. It was the hottest topic of conversation for witnesses. Today, the young theocratic bucks are not aware of it, do not believe it happened, or just don't give a damn!
The older witnesses have convinced themselves they never had or heard such conversations. Most of them, that is.

He said there was no way the Society could survive because they have all their eggs in the 1975 basket.

Well, let's hope his "prediction" will SOON! come true.

I came into the WT in 1971, when the "1975 Hysteria" was peaking...

When did you split?

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"1975" in 1969 TIME magazine article

by Tallyman in

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tried putting this up last night, but it didn't take.. .

dug this mag out of some attic boxes, and thought some here might find it interesting.. .

the time journalist makes some keen observations.. .

Tallyman

Tried putting this up last night, but it didn't take.

Dug this mag out of some attic boxes, and thought some here might find it interesting.

The TIME journalist makes some keen observations.

S/He detected the weasly-mealy-mouthed type of predictions the Watchtower society makes.

The Watchtower didn't make a FLAT prediction about 1975 being The End...

Has anyone noticed, that we've been in a "Sabbath-like Rest" period for the last 26 years?

It has completely escaped my notice!

Click Here: * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/Time1975.html for the article.

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I needs a "Proclaimer" book - will trade

by Tallyman in

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anyone out there want to work out a trade.. i need a new copy of the watchtower's "proclaimers" book - their revisionist history of the organization.. i've read that more than a few of y'all here are still hooked up with the org in different ways and some still go to kingdom hall.. well, since this book is " f r e e " , it shouldn't be a huge prob to secure a copy... and if someone can, i've got wt schtuff to trade for a new copy of "proclaimers" .. anyone wanna do a deal?.

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Tallyman

Fark,

it won't be the First time I've done something to damage my brain cells... heeeeeeee

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I needs a "Proclaimer" book - will trade

by Tallyman in

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anyone out there want to work out a trade.. i need a new copy of the watchtower's "proclaimers" book - their revisionist history of the organization.. i've read that more than a few of y'all here are still hooked up with the org in different ways and some still go to kingdom hall.. well, since this book is " f r e e " , it shouldn't be a huge prob to secure a copy... and if someone can, i've got wt schtuff to trade for a new copy of "proclaimers" .. anyone wanna do a deal?.

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Tallyman

Anyone out there want to work out a trade.

I need a NEW copy of the Watchtower's "Proclaimers" book - their Revisionist History of the Organization.

I've read that more than a few of y'all here are still hooked up with the Org in different ways and some still go to Kingdom Hall.

Well, since this book is " F R E E " , it shouldn't be a huge prob to secure a copy... and if someone can, I've got WT Schtuff to trade for a new copy of "Proclaimers" .

Anyone wanna do a deal?

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The stOOpifying Hypocrisy of the WT

by Tallyman in

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Tallyman

Fark,

I do not know the answer to your Questions.

I hear the Kult has a Special Koin you can flip to come up with the right answers - the 'heads' side of the koin is a braindeadbrain, and the 'tails' side is a big fat ass!

I hope that helps.

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The stOOpifying Hypocrisy of the WT

by Tallyman in

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Tallyman

Thanks ..for the addition to my files.

Gots plenty more, Mac H

Before I sell anything from now on, I'm gonna make a good digital scan of it, for uhh, 'posterity's sake'.

...I don't know how the Watchtower could fail any more miserably to live up to those "sage" words printed on their bookmark, can you?

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