Since I'm not an atheist, perhaps we had better begin by clarifying things for you, Tallyman.
Wow, Seeker. Thanks for clearing that up.
I was under the impression from our past exchanges you were Atheist.
So you are a believer? Are you a Deist, Theist, Polytheist? What?
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Atheist.
Agnostic.
Animal.
Okay Seeker, maybe I got my 'A's mixed up there.
You did say a couple of months back in a thread where we exchanged
quite a few posts - that Humans were Animals.
Correct?
So, when that United States Government Document says that:
All Men Are Created Equal,
not only are you(?) acknowledging a Creator, but also are you agreeing that all men/women are created equal?
Well, then, do you interpret that as "All Animals Are Created Equal"?
If a Human (according to you - the way I've understood your position in past) is a Higher Animal, then wouldn't that automatically imply that there are Lower Animals...
or "sub-Humans"?
So, when I said, in regards to the Barbarian Terrorists who carried
out the Horrible Slaughter on 9/11 -
"you're dealing with the lower Animals."
in response to Mr.Gee-Whiz's accessment of what kind of war this is
NOT going to be... I also added:
"How you going to go about "reasoning" with these Animals?"
"All they understand is the "language" of force."
(the Israelis have long understood that you do not "reason" or "negotiate" with Terrorists, and we could learn many lessons from them)
To all that, Seeker, you then responded to me:
No, we are dealing with fellow humans. Some of whom deserve to die, but humans nonetheless. Having your attitude is no more helpful than it was to pretend the WWII Japanese and Germans were subhuman. That's a good propaganda technique, but it isn't reality, and it doesn't help the situation. If you cannot understand your enemy, you can never defeat them.
So, I'm having a hard time assimilating what you say above,
in comparision with what you stated in the past.
I think the only way to defeat this "enemy" we now face IS to understand them, and that they are Barbarians who want to destroy Civilization - the Law of which is Cooperation.
These Terrorists are NOT about to be reasoned or negotiated with or are they going to cooperate with Civilization.
Would you agree?
Is that the way to undertand them as the enemy?
So, according to what you've written here in the past,
would that make this enemy,
"sub-Human"?
"lower-Animal"?
"sub-Civilization"?
But since you say:
No, we are dealing with fellow humans.
I would have to say you are quite ignorant of the enemy and have failed miserably to understand that enemy,
in that what you say may fully express your sentiments,
and it is anoble sentiment,
but this is a war now where Idealism isn't gonna cut it.
Reality Bites Hard, now.
This enemy does NOT view YOU as a "fellow human"
and wants no kinship or fellowship or dealings with you.
They want to destroy you and your whole way of life.
Those nice soothing hot showers and cold martinis you said you so enjoyed a while back...?
"Fuggeddaboutit!" (if this Enemy has its way)
If you/we learn this "language" they, the Enemy, speaks in, there is Hope to Defeat them.
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