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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
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  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  Huh?

  DesirousOfChange2 hours agoI think you are here to "witness" to us about YOUR religious ideas.
  IF SO: Don't go away mad, just go away. Nobody cares
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  I`m going out on a limb here ! ....PIMO

  by smiddy3 in

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  pimo , as i said i`m going out on a limb here and i might upset some people ,but i really don`t think this is a real strategy that works and doesn`t help the person who is still in.. while you may be doing this to keep the peace in the household and keep relations somewhat stable in the family arrangement ,it`s not helping the person who is still under the control of wt/gb to break free from it ,and isn`t that what you would really like to happen ?.

  and are their children involved as well ?

  that`s another issue ,the longer they are subject to this control the harder it will be for them to disengage get free.. maybe you should re-evaluate what you could do more to help your partner / spouse or whatever to free themselves from this bondage they have involved themselves in.. [ of course their may be others who are quite happy to have their partners/mates under the control of the wt/gb.

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  I have faced this dilemma recently. Not as a family but on my own, so no children involved. Some years back I decided that many of the JW's teachings did not add up, so I pretty much left the congregation. About a couple months back I attended a Sunday meeting and many of my friends greeted me thinking I was still a JW I believe. However, I had relayed to a close friend that I did not believe in the FDS anymore so could not return as a JW.

  During the watchtower study I raised my hand in order to give a comment stating my name and that I was attending as a visitor. I noticed thereafter; the conductor refused to call upon me in order to comment. Will they allow me to visit on occasion without taking steps to gain me back or considering me to be an apostate? In order to find out, I feel the need to contact the elders in order to explain my circumstances. I will then know what to do.

  Estephan
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

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  Biahi5 hours ago
  Anyone making that claim should be able to prove it.

  I agree with Biahi. The way to prove it is by first examining the scripture in order to understand the meaning of the slave.

  “Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

  
  

  First, it seems this servant (singular) is one person and not a group of people the JW's identify as the faithful and discreet slave "class". And Jesus will appoint this slave as ruler over his household. Does this mean Jesus will appoint the slave as king upon the earth over the congregation?

  
  

  Estephan
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  Babylon the Great

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

  inquiring minds want to know .

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  Bible prophecy relates to leaders and world events. A fulfillment of prophecy is usually a major event and historical. Otherwise, we would not be able to identify them. Which events are historical in our time?

  911, which led to the longest war in the Middle East: "And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”

  The many floods across the planet along with global warming: "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be".

  “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

  Yes, the 911 event is described in chapter 13 of the book of Revelation with United States being the Beast. And the mass flooding across the planet where the powers of the heavens (atmosphere) will be shaken along with the roaring of the sea.

  Fulfillment of prophecy is happening before our eyes. We just need to recognize them.

  Estephan
  
  
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  If anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?

  Estephan
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  Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

  one that comes to mind is.

  1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

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  I have never met any of the members of the governing body, supposably of the anointed class, so I have nothing bad to say about them. One of the main teachings of the JW's is the faithful and discreet slave. I do not believe this to be true whatsoever. It is one of the main reasons I left the organization.

  Estephan
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  Babylon the Great

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

  inquiring minds want to know .

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  These two events have hurt the economy: 911 event and Covid

  • The 9/11 terrorist attacks on America caused significant economic damage in the immediate aftermath, rippling through global financial markets.
  • Airlines and insurance companies took the hardest immediate hit, and U.S. stock markets initially fell more than 10% in the days after.
  • Despite its lasting impact on the American psyche, the economic and financial impact of 9/11 was fairly muted, with markets bouncing back months after to new highs.
  • This was helped, in part, by a resilient American economy along with support and stimulus from the federal government.

  While it is difficult to tell exactly what the economic damage from the global COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic has been, it has had severe negative impacts on the global economy. During 2020, the world's collective gross domestic product (GDP) fell by 3.4 percent. To put this number in perspective, global GDP reached 84.54 trillion U.S. dollars in 2020 – meaning that a 3.4 percent drop in economic growth results in over two trillion U.S. dollars of lost economic output. However, the global economy quickly recovered from the initial shock, reaching positive growth levels again in 2021. That year, it reached 92.3 trillion U.S. dollars and it is expected to continue to grow in the coming years, although Russia's war in Ukraine since February 2022 and its impact on the world's economy may hamper economic growth.

  
  

  Has the fulfillment of Babylon the Great prophecy taken place, or are we to expect a greater world economic collapse? I am looking for answers to the meaning of Babylon the Great. Any thoughts on the matter aside from Empire of False Religion? I believe that Babylon the Great has fallen, but the finality of its doom will be when Christ arrives in The Kingdom of God in all of his glory.

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  Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore. The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. No craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore, and the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore. The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”
  
  
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  Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

  one that comes to mind is.

  1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

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  Godlyman

  I agree peacefulpete. Here are some examples of famous "cult" leaders falling under the category of dangerous:

  Cult leaders’ charismatic personalities, fringe beliefs and lust for power have inspired hundreds to follow their unconventional philosophies — with often-tragic results. Charles Manson, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and others have gained international notoriety for exposing the dark side of humanity.

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  And JW's wholeheartedly SWALLOW this!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  didn't peter say that god is not partial?

  (acts 10:34) the 'fartful slave' in warwick disagrees!.

  w11 8/15 p. 24 par.

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  I myself have never seen a single scripture proving there are 144,000 anointed Christians. In fact, I have never even seen a single scripture proving there is a faithful and discreet "class", aside from the slave being only "one" person.

  The Watchtower Society use the "Anointed" doctrine in order to maintain their authority over the congregations. This holds true for many religions claiming to be of a "special" group. This is so they can sway people to contribute their monies to their organization.

  Estephan aka: Brownboy

  P.S. When inserting your own text into another's writing, use a bracket [ like this ] to notify the reader that it is your insertion rather than the original author's.
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  Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

  one that comes to mind is.

  1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

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  As far as the JW's being a cult. This could be said to relate to every belief in existence according to the definition. However, a cult, I believe. is one that strays away from that of common practice in a normal society.

  Definition of cult

  noun

  1. 1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
     2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers:the physical fitness cult.
     3. the object of such devotion.
     4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
  2. adjective
  3. 1. of or relating to a cult.
     2. of, for, or attracting a small group of devotees:a cult movie.