Posts by smiddy3

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The God of This System Of Things 2 Cor.4:4 is the same God of Rom 13:1-7

by smiddy3 in

aren`t these two scriptures talking about the one and same god ?.

2 cor.4:4 speaks about the god of this system of things blinding the minds of unbelievers .. this scripture has always been attributed as to applying to satan the devil.

he is not blinding the minds of believers but unbelievers and i think that is a critical point about 2cor.4:4. rom.13:1-7 states that christians should be in subjection to the superior authorities under the arrangement of god and whoever opposers the authority has taken a stand against god.

smiddy3

Drearyweather

It could be argued that Jehovah blinds the mind of the unbelievers in 2Cor.4;4 whereas in 2Cor,4: 6 he is letting his light shine on the believers ?

However as The Fall Guy points out with those additional scriptures maybe the Bible just contradicts itself.

The Hebrew scriptures in many places highlight Gods name as Holy and sacred as defined by the Tetragrammaton JHVH or more correctly as YHWH .

In Isa.62:2 It prophesized that his people would be called by a new name

The Tetragrammaton or it`s equivalent Greek letters do not appear in the Christian Greek Scriptures (NT)

However Php.2:9 God exalted the name of Jesus that is above every other name in heaven on earth or under the earth.

Obviously even above the name Jehovah

Acts 11:26 ..".by divine providence the disciples were called Christians" not Jehovahs Witnesses.

Maybe just maybe Jehovah Jesus and Satan are all part of the same being .

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Is the Bible truly inspired?

by MrRoboto in

so i was reading the book of daniel, starting with chapter 4 (nebuchadnezzar's famous tree chopping/banding dream where the 7 times is introduced) but i noticed that when you don't cherry pick verses and just read straight thru - it really seems like some children's book that was poorly written.

even though the borg says that this book as written by daniel, chapter 4 is clearly written by "king nebuchad·nezzar to all the peoples, nations, and language groups dwelling in all the earth" after the tree chopping business.

) of the rest of the chapters seem to be written in 3rd person (odd, if you are writing about your experiences).

smiddy3

In 1 Sam.17:53-56 The Bible plainly identifies David as the slayer of the philistine Goliath.

However in 2 Sam.21:19 it states in a war with the Philistines "....and Elhanan the son of Ja-a-re-ore-gim the Bethle-hemite got to strike down Goliath the Gittite the shaft of whose spear was like the beam of loom workers."

On another note according to Genesis the Sun was a luminary for the day and the moon was a luminary for the night.

Granted the Sun is regular as clockwork for being a luminary for the day but the moon as a luminary for the night ?

Many times in it`s cycle the Moon never appears in the night sky because it is on the other side of the earth in the day time and quite visible.

Just saying.

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A wave of momentum!

by stuckinarut2 in

it certainly has to be one of the most exciting times to live in as an awake ex witness!.

the wave of momentum we are part of as thousands awaken from the hold of the society is a joy to be a part of.

the internet helps us to see that we are not alone.

smiddy3

To borrow a phrase "Theocratic Warfare"

Isa.60:22

may that be prophetic of Ex Jehovah`s Witnesses

And a very warm welcome to all the newbies that have posted on here this past year.

A good post stuckinarut2 for encouraging lurkers and others to share their story`s and experiences while keeping their confidentiality intact.

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Important Question about Bible Examiner Vol. XXI No. 1 (whole No. 313), October 1876, pages 27, 28

by Saename in

so i was just comparing several quotes from different watchtower publications related to 1914. in my experience, pre–1914 publications point to this year as the end, and post–1914 publications point to this year as the start of the last days.

so i was reading awake!

from 1973 january 22 p. 8 where it claims that jehovah's witnesses have always pointed to year 1914 as the beginning of the last days.

smiddy3

I`m sure you will find a quote either from IBSA /WT publications in a previous post about" Watchtower Society Embarrassments" in their publications originally posted about 13 years ago by vinny and just recently bumped.

Russell definetly taught that he and his faithful followers would be taken to heaven in 1914 while the rest of mankind would be punished by the wrath of God .

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Watchtower Society Embarrassments.

by Vinny in

" {ga jul 14 1926 644} .

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" {awak jun 22 1982 25}?

smiddy3

But of course to a JW at your door nu-lite negates all of those points made by the Society.

But then again you could also say "Haven`t J.W`s always claimed that they have the truth ?"

"What year exactly is it they started to have the truth"

" How could they ever have had the truth when they print such falsehoods in their publications ."

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Male Martyrs can expect to find 72 virgin maidens, what can female suicide bombers expect???

by James Mixon in

female martyrs will be chief of 72 virgins the fairest of the women, and plus she will made beautiful , happy and without jealousy .."whoopee" their paradise is worst than jw's paradise..

smiddy3

What I want to know is where on earth or heaven are they going to find 72 Virgin maidens ?

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Why Jehovah witnesses don't say, "Bless you" ?

by Issa in

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friends

bless you, that was a big sneeze you let out sister.. sister- ah, what does "bless you" mean?.

oh, it's pagan.

because people bless the soul of the person so they don't escape from their physical bodies.. sister- right, it is difficult to change the little things, but we can please jehovah by staying away from those things.. .... this is a scenario that happened when i accidentally (naturally) said "bless you" to the jw sister.

smiddy3

Jw`s just HAVE to be different from anyone else .

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The God of This System Of Things 2 Cor.4:4 is the same God of Rom 13:1-7

by smiddy3 in

aren`t these two scriptures talking about the one and same god ?.

2 cor.4:4 speaks about the god of this system of things blinding the minds of unbelievers .. this scripture has always been attributed as to applying to satan the devil.

he is not blinding the minds of believers but unbelievers and i think that is a critical point about 2cor.4:4. rom.13:1-7 states that christians should be in subjection to the superior authorities under the arrangement of god and whoever opposers the authority has taken a stand against god.

smiddy3

Aren`t these two scriptures talking about the one and same God ?

2 Cor.4:4 Speaks about the God of this system of things blinding the minds of unbelievers .

This scripture has always been attributed as to applying to Satan the Devil

But is it ?

He is not blinding the minds of believers but unbelievers and I think that is a critical point about 2Cor.4:4

Rom.13:1-7 States that Christians should be in subjection to the Superior Authorities under the arrangement of God and whoever opposers the authority has taken a stand against God

It goes on further to state :13:4' for it ( The superior Authorities) is gods minister to you for your good ,but if you are doing what is bad be in fear for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword for it is Gods minister to you for your good but if you are doing what is bad be in fear of the authority'.

Doesn`t this scripture show that God Jehovah is the God of this system of things ? and not Satan the devil ?

And couldn`t the scripture of 2 Cor.4:4 be applied to Jehovah God because he is blinding the minds of unbelievers and not believers.?

What do you think ?

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Male Martyrs can expect to find 72 virgin maidens, what can female suicide bombers expect???

by James Mixon in

female martyrs will be chief of 72 virgins the fairest of the women, and plus she will made beautiful , happy and without jealousy .."whoopee" their paradise is worst than jw's paradise..

smiddy3

J.M. I liked that ,LOL , Allah could have added they also have sheep in heaven .

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I wonder if their are any parents of theses children on here now .May 22 1994

by smiddy3 in

i know it could be a sensitive subject however we were all once firm believers and could have very well let one of our loved ones die due to what we once believed.. and not to be judgemental on what we would have done or did do in the past ,i sometime wonder if any of the parents or even one parent of the children of the may 22nd 1994 magazine of "youths who put god first " have now regretted their decision to let their children make this decision on their own.. after all these years i find it hard to believe that not one of them have no regrets to what happened to their child.. i can also accept that it would be extremely hard to admit that you allowed your child to make a decision to die on a belief you instilled in them that you no longer now believe in.

i think that would be very hard to live with and come to terms with.. if any of you are here my heart goes out to you because you have gone through hell and my thoughts/vibes are with you..

smiddy3

Thanks guys for the comments and experiences of what we might have done under the circumstances.

Eyeuse2badub I have no words to express my sadness here beyond it being so tragic.

Diogenesister ,This religion has a lot to answer for,thank you for your input.

Reopened mind:You dodged a bullet here thank you for your candor

In the 1960`s here in Melbourne Australia when I was a new convert their was a sensational case being played out in the media about a couple ,JW`s who had refused a blood transfusion for their baby who died.

I heard years later he was Dis-fellowshipped and that their marriage had broken down and I always felt that it was such a sad ending for them for what they had gone through as a couple so many years before.

I often wonder what became of both of them after all these years.