"from this it is clearly seen that the editor and publisher of zion's watch tower disavowed any claim to being individually, in his person, that "faithful and wise servant.
" he never did claim to be such," ("god's kingdom of a thousand years has approached," 1973, p. 346).. or this?.
"thousands of the readers of pastor russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season.
The WTB&TS speak out of both sides of there mouth as do Jehovah`s Witnesses today who are mainly made up of gullible ,intellectual lazy people who want to be told what to believe and not do any research for themselves .
Welcome to the forum Sea Breeze
"Your post has been like a breath of fresh air"
seriously WELCOME
I live on the Coast of Vict Aust ,so I know all about sea breezes LOL
i was hoping to get some advice on what to say to a parent who wouldn’t support you to get married to a “worldy person”.
always bringing up “marry only in the lord” even when that hasnt worked out for the parent, twice divorced lol.
is there a way to discredit that scripture or argue back respectfully without giving away that you are pimo?.
In reality, to be
"married in the Lord" ,could mean you could be yoked together with anyone in / of 40,000 Christian Religions ?
and you would still be adhering to ,not violating scripture.
i`m thinking about major conventions held by jw`s either nationally or internationally .they must be a big boost to the local economy when they are held .. think about the major international conventions held by jw`s over the years .
yankee stadium / polo grounds being one of the major ones ,though its not just confined to the jw`s ,billy graham crusades , and of course the pope`s visits to various countries.. and are they culpable or should they be for promoting these events to occur under there watch ?.
i mean as an extreme illustration or two here would such govts.
I`m thinking about major conventions held by JW`s either nationally or Internationally .They must be a big boost to the local economy when they are held .
Think about the major international conventions held by JW`s over the years . Yankee Stadium / Polo Grounds being one of THE major ones ,though its not just confined to the JW`s ,Billy Graham Crusades , and of course the Pope`s visits to various Countries.
And are they culpable or should they be for promoting these events to occur under there watch ?
I mean as an extreme illustration or two here would such Govts. OK a convention of white supremacist groups ? or an anti Semitic group in there locality ? Just to get more dollars in the community ?
more subpoenas have been added.
so the watchtower is getting close to 50. i think there are about 44 of them listed here.
brumley the witchhunter!.
Atlantis
"the Watchtower just had a case with Facebook. I think the Watchtower won that case",
Is it possible to know the details of that case ? And what winning the case actually meant $$$ wise for either side , if any .?
i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.
initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.
however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.
You have given them hours of YOUR time that they report monthly.
In other words they have wasted your time by not being up front with you that it is/was there goal to get you baptized into there religion .
Don`t feel guilty about it.Once you stop associating with them at meetings they will drop you like a sack of potatoes showing there true colours.
more subpoenas have been added.
so the watchtower is getting close to 50. i think there are about 44 of them listed here.
brumley the witchhunter!.
So this is good news Atlantis ? you cant lose ? or did I mis-read it ?
hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).
that means it can proceed further.
it is a first victory.
Rattigan350 ,I do agree that it is the responsibility of parents and family members to report child sexual abuse when they become aware of it ,however they are often hindered from doing so by the Elders because it will bring reproach on Jehovah`s name and his organization (Jehovah`s Witnesses )
Elders in there judicial committees handling such cases are privy to details of such sexual abuse that makes it a moral and ethical issue that they should report it to the local authorities to not only protect the victim but also any other child in the congregation not to mention children in the congregations territory .
just wondering how to find any local exjw in the inland empire area, i am in redlands california..
Be careful not to divulge too much info about yourself or your whereabouts if you don`t want to be outed and you want to keep under the radar and keep your privacy
just a friendly warning .
a huge realization hit me the other day while listening to a podcast that discussed the "lineage of jesus".. according to the bible, "the messiah" was to come through king davids lineage.
but, if you wade through the entire chapter of matthew that lists "son of ...son of...son of...etc", it becomes obvious that jesus did not come through davids line at all!.
in fact, that lineage lists jospeh (mary's husband) as being in davids line.
Before her impregnation, angel Gabriel told Mary that she would be impregnated by the Holy Spirit. Mary told the following words to the angel Gabriel, which shows she consented to it:
Then Mary said: “Look! Jehovah’s slave girl! May it happen to me according to your declaration.” Luke 1:38
So that was not rape. At verse 47, Mary says that she was 'overjoyed' with this news.
So then does that make Mary an adulteress ? Was she guilty of porneia ? a whore ?
i stopped attending meetings about three months ago.
after researching everything i could find on jehovahs witnesses (which is a lot) i can happily say i am awake and free.
i was a baptized witness for over 25 year.
HBF welcome to the forum ,i agree with other members here just back off a bit as far as your hubby is concerned but by all means celebrate your kids birthdays .don`t under any circumstances allow the JW/WT to get their claws into them .
Your hubby sounds like a typical average JW who has a feel good attitude about the religion and not one based on knowledge or facts .
What I would call a lazy intellectual belief in the religion .Don`t care too much about doctrine or dogma ,never really look into it ,just happy to hear about a new World where we can pat lions and pandas .
And worst of all they are happy to let others do their thinking for them , its so much easier .
My heart goes out to you ,I hope you have success in the long run in getting him out.
