Posts by smiddy3

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Is it just me

by Jayk in

or is thanksgiving a massive animal sacrifice ritual?.

smiddy3

JayK

Or is thanksgiving a massive animal sacrifice ritual?

Well just suppose that it is , though I don`t believe so personally, however it pales into insignificance with the massive animal sacrifice rituals that Jehovah God imposed on his chosen people .

1kings 8:62-64 "twenty two thousand cattle ,and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep that the King and all the sons of Israel might inaugurate the house of Jehovah .

Jehovah created these animals and has no qualms about offering them up as sacrifices.

Cain and Abel`s sacrifice to Jehovah Gen.4:3-6 Cain was a cultivator of the ground,whereas Abel brought the firstling`s of his flock even their fatty pieces,

Who got Jehovah`s favour ? Why Abel of course because he slaughtered one of Jehovah`s creations whereas Cain was found in disfavour because he offered up the first fruits of the ground.

I think Jehovah God got it arse about ,what do you think ?

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Do we need spirituality or religion to be good socially responsible people ?

by Finkelstein in

religion is declining in many countries around the world and hardly exists in some countries.. it would fair to say that scientifically acquired knowledge has taken a bite of religious practice over the years.

the premising suggestion that there is a god looking at everything mankind does or should do is vanishing out the human consciousness.. should we emulate the social directives written in ancient manuscripts established by those ancients for their civilization ?

is it possible that mankind can control and guide itself now with all the acquired knowledge we have attained, toward the ending betterment of humanity ?

smiddy3

Many JW people and more likely other religious people have an inbred fear that if you leave religion you will automatically fall into immorality .And it`s not something that is easily dispensed with or shaken off.

My wife was a bit apprehensive at first thinking the worst.However as the years passed that fear went out the door

After 56 years of marriage at a KH and left the religion about 25 years ago after 33 years of active service no such fear exists anymore.

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What is the benifits to living forever?

by Jayk in

can anyone give me a valid reason for it?

growing old is a drag.

the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..

smiddy3

In the 1960`s I was taught that Jehovah didn`t create all of these Galaxy`s for nothing probably/possibly he plans to eventually populate planets in these Galaxy`s with those who have proved themselves faithful here on earth and the whole universe would be filled with humans praising Jehovah

I`m not sure if it was ever in print anywhere though ? anybody remember anything like this ? pre 1960`s ?

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Name a song title..........

by punkofnice in

replace one word in a song title with the word 'elder/s'.. eg.

the elders are back in town' (boys).

smoke on the elder (water).

smiddy3

Great thread punk, some good titles by all keep em coming.

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Name a song title..........

by punkofnice in

replace one word in a song title with the word 'elder/s'.. eg.

the elders are back in town' (boys).

smoke on the elder (water).

smiddy3

Knock knock knocking on Elders doors { heavens }

Elders be good {johnny}

Elderlujah {Hallelujah }

I can`t get no Elders {satisfaction }

I did it Elders way { my }

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Bringing reproach on Jehovah's name.

by ScottyRex in

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friends

i have thought long and hard about this, you know in those midnight hours.. you will probably string me alive in what i say, but here you go-.

i feel that the jw's do have the truth.

i do agree with the doctrines and biblical exgenesis they propound.i do feel that they have the 'truth' i do understand they are imperfect, and i think they have had to 'refine' their teachings as time has gone on-and change accordingly- i see nothing wrong with this.

smiddy3

Scotty is just one of those guys who left the "truth" but the :truth" never left them and they go back & forth in and out for years without ever coming to an accurate knowledge of what the real TRUTH really is.

Basically the reason is because it`s an emotional feel good feeling they get with the indoctrination and the false friendships that exist at Kingdom halls.

People like him/her have never really tested whether what the WT/GB say is factual and just take it on face value without doing their own private research of non JW material.

Do yourself a favour Scotty and research all that JW`s have preached these past 140 odd years then if you still think JW`s have the truth you deserve each other.

{ You have been on here for 8 years and you still haven`t learnt TTATT ? }

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My Cognitive Dissonance is Eating Me Alive (Intro Post)

by pometerre21 in

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friends

i've been lurking here for a couple of weeks now.

i'm starting to "awaken" and it is all that has been occupying my mind.

i've always, always had doubts, some of which i expressed to family members who always had the same replies:.

smiddy3

Welcome Pom ,the majority have gone through what you are now going through don`t let that get you down.It took me a couple of years before I shook off all the shackles that bound me.

That was about 11 years ago when I first was introduced to the internet.I am indebted to those guys forever.

At first I could not believe some of the things I was learning about the religion, continued research proved these things true.

I hope you stay around on this forum ,I have learnt and proved more about the JW religion than I ever knew in my 33 years as a Jehovah`s Witness .

What organization is ashamed of their early history that they need to continually re-define their early history .

What they say now about their origins compared to what was actually printed in there publications does not gel.

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Daughter gets fondled -- mother's loving strategy takes back seat

by FatFreek 2005 in

nightmare on elm street.

mother to elder: tiffany, my daughter, shocked me last night.

she told me she was fondled by our hispanic neighbor after she babysat for their children.. elder: that is terrible to hear, sister.

smiddy3

What gets my goat about the "real life" cases that happen is the response Elders and the organization give

",We abhor Child Sexual Abuse and the parents have every right to report such a case" or words to that effect.

What they fail to acknowledge is the fact THEY should be reporting such abuse when it comes to their attention .however THEY continually fail to do so.

This fact was made quite clear in the ARC into child sexual abuse in institutions.

This very same fact has been demonstrated in other Child sex abuse cases in the JW organization around the world.

On the one hand they claim they abhor child sex abuse among Jehovah`s Witnesses

On the other hand when it comes to their notice of child sex abuse against a Jehovah`s Witness minor and they hold a Judicial Committee of three Elders to investigate they ALL fail to notify the appropriate authorities of the crime.

They neither protect the child in the congregation nor do they protect children in the community by withholding such information from the authorities .

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Free Minds Web Site

by garyneal in

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friends

anyone know what has happened to freemind.org website?

it's still up but it looks like a shell of the site i remember back five or six year years ago.

if i am not mistaken, i think randy may have taken ill over the years.

smiddy3

I hope Dogpatch is OK as he was one of the first ones I came across when I first had a PC about 10-12 years ago and like others have said I found this site through him.

Another one I would be thankful for for my knowing TTATT is Shaun`s site ,10 or 12 years ago ,I am indebted to both of them for where I, and my family are today .

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Confusion with 'Message of Judgement'

by Listener in

there has been some discussion regarding the change in the jws message so i thought i would have a listen to the recent annual meeting to try to get an idea as to why the jws are not clear on the matter, once again.

it's strange that the annual meeting hasn't been put on jw org tv to date.it looks like the confusion stems from a talk given by tight pants tony and i've written out a part of that talk.

his talk was titled 'making our blows count'.

smiddy3

So whats new ? the big" A" or "GT " just around the corner ? It`s imminent ?

How many times and how many years can they get away with this BS? The average JW has to be a lot dumber than I would ever have imagined .

This crap was doing the rounds in the mid 1970`s that the message was going to be changed to one of judgement against those who had not taken heed of the life saving message JW`s had been giving up until that time.

Here we go again I suppose