If they don`t quote their sources maybe they feel they are then not accountable ?
However surely they are when they mis-represent someone they do quote and take them out of context giving an entirely different view to what the author intended .?
is it vital for credibility to have the name of the writer of an article referenced?.
does this allow for honesty and accountability?
does this assist in ensuring that whatever is presented is as factual as possible, or not biased in some way toward the religion's ideas?.
If they don`t quote their sources maybe they feel they are then not accountable ?
However surely they are when they mis-represent someone they do quote and take them out of context giving an entirely different view to what the author intended .?
page 15 of awake!
2017 provides an image that shows hebrew writing with the statement: “the personal name of god written in ancient hebrew characters appears abundantly in early manuscripts of the bible”.. alongside that image, the awake!
provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘god’s name’ in various languages”.. the facts do not support either assertion that the watchtower society makes:.
Alongside that image, the Awake! provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘God’s Name’ in various languages”.
And the rendering of God`s name in all of these languages would be by Christendoms Scholars/clergy no doubt otherwise who else would be writing about such things.?
Does`nt that fact fly in the face of the claim by WT.Org that Christendom has been hiding Gods name and keeping it from the public ? Why is that name carved in stone on Churches throughout Europe and other parts of the world including Australia?
again with the pants... tony, if you can't stop looking at young men in tight pants don't take it out on the rest of us.
https://www.facebook.com/john.cedars.5/posts/868329653345317.
Tight pants tony thinks Jehovah is offended by men wearing tight pants ?
How come Jehovah never complained about men wearing dresses including his son/ Jesus ?
i was born january 15, 1947in mt.
carmel hospital, detroit, michigan.. within six months of my birth, my mother would bundle her baby boy into a blanket and board an american airlines propeller-driven plane--in effect, leaving my father behind--to return to her hometown, ft. worth, texas.. my dad had an excellent job working for cadillac as an inspector.
it was a union job.
Happy Birthday Terry,I always enjoy your contributions on this board ,welcome to the old mans club .
i believe that i have a good cause to sue the organization.
but i know that they have crafted themselves a legal loophole infinite loop.
so i was thinking that i should just sue the congregation that i know fucked me over.
So what exactly would you be suing the congregation for ? You say you were brought up in the religion ,however you stayed their and apparently believed it for a time and now you feel you have been lied to and want to sue the congregation ? is that it ?
Join the queue there are over 40,000 different christian sects with millions of people who have left dissatisfied with their chosen religion for one reason or another .
Do you honestly think the courts would listen to you or any of them with a complaint ? as to how they were treated ?
By the way dantoole87 welcome to the board and please do not take offence at any critics you can learn a lot by hanging out here.
imagine yourself still sitting at a kingdom hall meeting and turn to the book of mark 7: 21-23. the sayings of jesus are really profound.
the scripture makes you think, reflect, enters your heart and produces results.. today, you have your modern day governing body ( who supposedly are the mouthpiece for jesus and jehovah and provide spiritual food for the 8 million followers).
if jehovah really sends his holy spirit upon these seven men, is this silly and petty message they can come up with?
So if you know that someone has committed a juicy, serious sin, go and "talk to them" about it. Having "discussed" it, then tell them that they are compelled to confess to 3 elders via a Judicial Committee.
Sad to say TFG they don`t even do that ,they don`t approach the bro.or sis, at all but go straight to an elder themselves and make a complaint and then the elder goes to the person and says something like many have complained or observed such behaviour and it`s a cause for stumbling etc etc.
someone at my workplace, i don't know who, is a jw and has been leaving magazines in the cafeteria.
any suggestion as to what i could do?
i thought of writing up a note stating: "to whoever is bringing these magazine: jw have broken up my family, please don't bring religion to work.
I`m just wondering how your workplace employers would react to employees leaving religious tracts /mags around the workplace .
What would they tolerate next other employees leaving their preferred religious literature around the workplace ? next you could expect literature of all the political persuasions being left around .?
I think a quite word to management in a suggestion box if they have one or an anonymous note to management outlining the above scenarios that you don`t think this is the right place to be leaving such literature as it could compromise the Company you work for.
Then management could put up a notice that such practices are not tolerated by the company and whoever is responsible to desist from doing so.
Just a suggestion
the door was knocked very quietly, (the bell ignored) .
two ladies stood there both clutching bibles, a youngish one, early thirties, and an old dear, in her seventies i would guess.. the young one started "we have been asking your neighbours today if they feel there is anywhere to go for reliable guidance ?".
" but pointing to her silver sword i said " but not there though !".
"Well it was nice to hear your opinions", I didn't let that go ! I said " Everything I have told you is facts, not opinions, if you find out that something I have said to you is not factual, write it on a piece of paper and put it through my door if I am not in "
I liked that Phizzy you got the last word in and it was a clincher.
I would give you an A for presentation an A for keeping your cool and a AAA for closing the discussion with a clincher.
the current public edition of the watchtower - 2018 issue 1 - is entirely on one theme - is the bible relevant today.
about half of the magazine is on 3 articles on how the bible can be practical.
they are "avoid problems" "resolve difficulties" and "cope successfully".
You guys are on to something here but I`m afraid we have all missed the obvious ! As saltheart-Ff points out
ARC
Yes this is clearly a reference to the Arc reactor which powers the Iron Man suit
Or Is it ?
More importantly it could be a message by a fifth column agent ( mole) referring to none other
than
the Australian Royal Commission into child sexual abuse by institutions. { A R C }
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
what is it about non-creationism which many find so appealing? What is their heart-of-hearts motivation? Is it for the same reason that many (or should one say MANY?) xJws are turned off by the thought that there may really be a Creator and a Heavenly Family?
My objection to an Almighty God Jehovah /Jesus Christ /Angels /Satan etc. is :
1. The Bible and what it contains.And what it does not contain.
2.Imperfect human beings are the ones who defined what was the word of God ,God had no say in it he was completely silent about it.
3.God by all accounts in the Bible had no problem communicating with humans by means of visions ,angels ,dreams ,prophets ,etc.and their was no doubt that it was God communicating with them.
4.No such claim can be made by any Christian religion today it is all down to the religions interpretation of the scriptures they want you to believe in.An interpretation of the Bible by imperfect human beings who have an agenda of their own .God has no say in it .
And all of these reasons no doubt fit any other religious belief of Christendom.
5. Having said all of that , forget the Bible and all of that ,I am not averse to the possibility that their are other life forms in the universe that may or may not have had involvement in the spread of life forms on this planet .
6.That is to say if #5 were true {and I`m not saying it is } it does not mean they are or have been in any way involved in how events turn out here on earth.Nor are they involved in any way with what happens to humans on a day to day basis .
7. It could be said that if a more advanced civilization in the universe sowed the seeds of life for this planet and left it to sort itself out then I suppose you could call it from our viewpoint a God ?
But it certainly is not is the Christian or Jewish or Muslim book of faith or any other religious book of faith produced by imperfect humans.