I wonder in what year was the last Watchtower with the heading "Zions Watchtower and Herald of Christs Presence "? and the apparent Masonic symbols depicted on the front cover.
smiddy3
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The Harp of God book
by blownaway ini am looking for the book the harp of god.
i am told it has some crazy passages in it.
can anyone put up some quotes of the book?
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Apparently Jehovah`s Witnesses have no scruples about " LYING" to their GOD Jehovah
by smiddy3 ini thought it was bad enough that jw`s put in weekly reports of fs hours every month in the d2d work when in fact the average publisher would never mention this "good news of the kingdom" to the householder .. more often than not it would be something like some mundane thing about what they have observed about the householders property whether they have kids ,what a lovely garden they have before being cut off by the householder with i`m not interested knowing jw`s are trying to convert them/sell them the watchtower and closing the door.. yet the jw goes away happily putting in a report telling jehovah they have spent so much time in the fs witnessing about him and the kingdom of christ jesus...... cart witnessing is even a worse lie ,why ?
because jw`s make no attempt to witness to anybody they expect people to come to them to be witnessed to which of course never happens .
they spend hours upon hours a month telling jehovah by their fs reports they hand in how much they have witnessed for him ,when in fact they have done nothing of the sort .. they chit chat among themselves witnessing to nobody for hours on end and then lie in their fs report they have been witnessing for jehovah ?.
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smiddy3
Jrjw ,Couldn`t that argument just be turned around in Christendoms favour ? How about the Mormons who go from D2D or for that matter the SDA ,the Salvation Army ,the Baptists all of which engage in D2D work and i`m sure their are many others.
So JW`s are really no different from any other Christian Religion in this sense.
And they have no more authority over "truth" than any of these other religions.
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New to the truth
by MatthewHewey ini have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.
i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.
so far, i love it.
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smiddy3
Welcome to the board Matthew glad to have you on this site.You say you are new to the "truth" ?
What exactly is "truth" according to JW`s ? What they believed 5 years ago ? it`s changed ,10 years ago ? it`s changed 20 years ago ? its changed 50 years ago ? its changed over 100 years ago ? it is always changing according to Jehovah`s Witnesses .
If Jehovah the God of truth was in fact directing this religion why couldn`t he say what was true and factual in the first place instead of giving them untruths in the meantime ?
Use your brain Matthew does "truth" change ? Their is no such thing as past truths ,new truths ,old truths that the JW`s have used in the past to excuse their false prophecy`s ,interpretations ,and evident expectations .
"Get out of her if you don`t want to be a sharer of her sins".
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Apparently Jehovah`s Witnesses have no scruples about " LYING" to their GOD Jehovah
by smiddy3 ini thought it was bad enough that jw`s put in weekly reports of fs hours every month in the d2d work when in fact the average publisher would never mention this "good news of the kingdom" to the householder .. more often than not it would be something like some mundane thing about what they have observed about the householders property whether they have kids ,what a lovely garden they have before being cut off by the householder with i`m not interested knowing jw`s are trying to convert them/sell them the watchtower and closing the door.. yet the jw goes away happily putting in a report telling jehovah they have spent so much time in the fs witnessing about him and the kingdom of christ jesus...... cart witnessing is even a worse lie ,why ?
because jw`s make no attempt to witness to anybody they expect people to come to them to be witnessed to which of course never happens .
they spend hours upon hours a month telling jehovah by their fs reports they hand in how much they have witnessed for him ,when in fact they have done nothing of the sort .. they chit chat among themselves witnessing to nobody for hours on end and then lie in their fs report they have been witnessing for jehovah ?.
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smiddy3
I thought it was bad enough that JW`s put in weekly reports of FS hours every month in the D2D work when in fact the average publisher would never mention this "Good News of the Kingdom" to the householder .
More often than not it would be something like some mundane thing about what they have observed about the householders property whether they have kids ,what a lovely garden they have before being cut off by the householder with I`m not interested knowing JW`s are trying to convert them/sell them the Watchtower and closing the door.
Yet the JW goes away happily putting in a report telling Jehovah they have spent so much time in the FS witnessing about him and the Kingdom of Christ Jesus.....
Cart witnessing is even a worse LIE ,why ? because JW`s make no attempt to witness to anybody they expect people to come to them to be witnessed to which of course never happens
They spend hours upon hours a month telling Jehovah by their FS reports they hand in how much they have witnessed for him ,when in fact they have done nothing of the sort .
They chit chat among themselves witnessing to nobody for hours on end and then lie in their FS report they have been witnessing for Jehovah ?
If by chance someone does approach the witnessing cart what do we find ,why it`s bro,or sis, so and so ,more mundane chit chat and they include that in their report of how many hours they witnessed ?
Did Jesus or the Apostles set up a stall and wait for people to come to them ? And keep silent until they were approached ? Or was Jesus and the Apostles pro-active and GIVE a witness to those in the market places and speak to those who would stop and give a hearing ear ,not waiting to be approached .
Shame on Jehovah`s Witnesses who have no scruples in lying to the GOD they profess to worship as the GOD of truth.
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What to Do....Please Help. Awakening JW for a very long time
by CovertsadJW ingood afternoon , .
i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.
i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.
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smiddy3
Your wife claims to believe the Bible ? Assert your headship authority according to scriptures and call out her unscriptual behavior as a wife who should be in subjection to her husband .
Use theocratic warfare on her and the elders .Two can play at that game.
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Attention!! There will be sex in heaven
by James Mixon inwell i thought i had heard it all but, the mercury columns "will christians enjoy sex in heaven" just hurt my brain.
how can god allow sexual relations in heaven without marriage??
in heaven there is no need for anyone to belong exclusively to another(wow!!!
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smiddy3
Obviously that explains why so many more JW`s are claiming to be of the Anointed Class
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New to the truth
by MatthewHewey ini have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.
i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.
so far, i love it.
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smiddy3
A previous President of the WTB&TS/Jehovah`s Witnesses stated that "Religion Is A Snare And A Racket"
Joseph. F.Rutherford
That definition fits the JW religion down to a tee.
A truer word was never said
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The anonymity of Jehovah's Witness material
by stuckinarut2 inis it vital for credibility to have the name of the writer of an article referenced?.
does this allow for honesty and accountability?
does this assist in ensuring that whatever is presented is as factual as possible, or not biased in some way toward the religion's ideas?.
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smiddy3
If they don`t quote their sources maybe they feel they are then not accountable ?
However surely they are when they mis-represent someone they do quote and take them out of context giving an entirely different view to what the author intended .?
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References to YHWH in ancient documents
by Doug Mason inpage 15 of awake!
2017 provides an image that shows hebrew writing with the statement: “the personal name of god written in ancient hebrew characters appears abundantly in early manuscripts of the bible”.. alongside that image, the awake!
provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘god’s name’ in various languages”.. the facts do not support either assertion that the watchtower society makes:.
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smiddy3
Alongside that image, the Awake! provides a listing to show “the rendering of ‘God’s Name’ in various languages”.
And the rendering of God`s name in all of these languages would be by Christendoms Scholars/clergy no doubt otherwise who else would be writing about such things.?
Does`nt that fact fly in the face of the claim by WT.Org that Christendom has been hiding Gods name and keeping it from the public ? Why is that name carved in stone on Churches throughout Europe and other parts of the world including Australia?
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Tony "Tightpants" Morris Talks Of Tight Pants AGAIN!!
by pale.emperor inagain with the pants... tony, if you can't stop looking at young men in tight pants don't take it out on the rest of us.
https://www.facebook.com/john.cedars.5/posts/868329653345317.
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smiddy3
Tight pants tony thinks Jehovah is offended by men wearing tight pants ?
How come Jehovah never complained about men wearing dresses including his son/ Jesus ?