That was brilliant I love those flash mob performances by qualified performers .
Contrast that with some of the pathetic wannabe`s Jehovah`s Witnesses who have tried the same with their Kingdom songs that I have seen in obscure places.
That was brilliant I love those flash mob performances by qualified performers .
Contrast that with some of the pathetic wannabe`s Jehovah`s Witnesses who have tried the same with their Kingdom songs that I have seen in obscure places.
i am so tired to talk to jws that i know.
i think one day i will become rude and ingore them and avoid them.
every conversation ends like this-.
I go up to an orthodox jew who is praying at the wailing wall in Jerusalem and ask him how long has he been doing this and he reply`s all of my 70 years of life .
I ask him what does he pray for and he says peace among the Arabs and the Israelis and the Palestinians above all ?
And i ask him and how do you think your prayers are being answered ?
and he says sometimes I`m thinking I`m just talking to a bloody brick wall .
i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.
not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.
however i didn't lose my children.
I wouldn`t beat myself up too much about it new boy we did what we thought was best for our children at the time .
We are not perfect and we make mistakes like everybody else including our children
Their is no need for him to hold a grudge against you and try to make you feel guilty over what is past.Your son needs to take a chill pill and realize that what he does with his life now is what counts .
He, your son is in charge of his own destiny and nobody else ,not you ,or the religion .
How his life turns out is entirely up to him and the choices he makes in life.
the attack by gog of magog with commentary watch to the end.
talk from the 2018 convention .watch till the end.
So Gog of Magog is the Anti-Christ that is still to be revealed at some future date ?
I suppose that is just around the corner too or maybe its coming soon.
Another carrot on the end of another stick
remember the book we studied that "Babylon The Great Has Fallen Gods Kingdom Rules" saying that false religion fell in 1919 which included all worldly religions of which Christendom was the principle part.?
Funny how in this day 2018 religion is stronger than it ever was around the world.
i have been invited to speak at an international cultic studies association workshop this fall.
i could use your help in focusing on my presentation subject.. these workshops are for former members of any cult or other high-control, authoritarian group, not just jehovah's witnesses.
last year, i spoke at one of their larger conferences in europe.
2 .Examining beliefs { Not just relying on cult information}
3. Psycho-Education { Getting professional help and tools to negate cult thinking}
5. Personal identity { Who is the real me without a cult influence }
1. Five stages of grief { What to expect when one realizes they have been misled for however how long }
6. Dealing with isolation and loneliness { Developing friendships and acquaintances outside of the cult }
4. Treatments / interventions { Whatever additional help is needed to bring the person back into the real world. }
Both my wife and I and our two sons and one D.I.L have been out for 25 years , and I D.A. myself a couple of years ago.
I am the only one that frequents this site ,the others have no need for it their just happy getting on with their own lives .
And that pleases me .
from the shepard the flock book.
"discernment is needed in considering claims.
of rape, taking into consideration such factors as the.
I just posted this on social media
when i was an elder back in the 1970's i loved to debate and challenge ministers, preachers, and holy rollers.
now you can be a loyal jdub fully indoctrinated for 30 years but just take a peek at an apostate website and you are doomed.
yes, satan now has you by the gonads and all of the years of being at the meetings, all of the family worship nights, all of the conventions, and all of the personal study just go up in a cloud of smoke.
Simply because the so called Apostate sites speak the "TRUTH" and Jehovah`s Witnesses can`t handle the "TRUTH"
no , they have the governing body { some would say the popes of the religion }.
and you do not under any circumstance go against what they say./ .
they also have branch overseers , district overseers .circuit overseers , and elders in a congregation .. they are all up and above the rank and file of the average ordinary jehovah`s witness and they are looked upon as such by the rank and file member as equivalent to a clergy class.. oh and lets not forget the legal department that has a lot to say in how the jehovah`s witness organization responds to allegations of child sexual abuse around the world.. and when an allegation arises about child sexual abuse the w.t.
No , They have the Governing Body { some would say the popes of the religion }
And you do not under any circumstance go against what they say./
They also have Branch Overseers , District Overseers .Circuit Overseers , and Elders in a Congregation .
They are all up and above the rank and file of the average ordinary Jehovah`s Witness and they are looked upon as such by the rank and file member as equivalent to a clergy class.
Oh and lets not forget the Legal Department that has a lot to say in how the Jehovah`s Witness organization responds to allegations of Child Sexual Abuse around the World.
And when an allegation arises about Child Sexual Abuse the W.T. Organization pleads the Clergy Penitent Clause ?
To withhold information crucial to a trial that may incriminate themselves .
So do Jehovah`s Witnesses have a Clergy Class ?
Of course they do they just might not class it as such in their vernacular .
... are standing at trolleys every day - millions of hours every year - and never approach people with the "good news" - as per the instructions of the self-proclaimed "faithful slave" in the usa.. the forked tongue of the wt serpent speaks yet again:.
w16 may pp.
8-9 pars.
And what about the WatchTower announcing "Jehovah`s Kingdom" ? on thei front cover of their Magazine ?
Where in the whole Bible ,OT and NT is their any mention of "Jehovah`s Kingdom " ? nowhere that I can think of .
Whereas the Christian Greek Scriptures (N.T.) as J.W.`s like to call it have numerous accounts about the Kingdom of god and identifies no one else as King except Jesus , the name Jehovah is never mentioned in the N.T. and the Tetragrammaton JHVH /YHWH does not appear in the Greek text that the Jehovah`s Witnesses base their NWT on .
See the N.W.T. the Kingdom Interlinear Of The christian Greek Scriptures published by the WTB&TS a word for word translation of the Greek into English .
Nowhere does the Tetragrammaton appear nor does a Greek equivalent of those four letters appear in the Greek text .
this post is mainly for our new forum visitors and members.
perhaps even those who are just lurking or visiting here but have not yet signed up.
maybe you are in the initial stages of researching and finding out the earthshattering and life changing information about the religion that you once held dear and called “the truth”.. it can be a very stressful period of time as you realise that your whole foundation has changed and that the people in your life that you call friends or family may not take kindly to the things you have discovered.
That is an excellent post stuck and I totally agree ,Do I fourth that ?
I loved that response W.M.U.B.Y.Jo-Ho you have the makings of a Sci-Fi author
And as an added note to lurkers or first timers here you can use the envelope at the top of the screen to post a personal message to whoever you want that nobody else can see and its a private conversation .
I encourage you to take advantage of it as it is confidential.