Take out the books referring to other items on your list, or written by the same writers, and we're left with not much of a Bible anymore, are we?
That about sums it up for me
the wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.
to mention a few:.
1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.
Take out the books referring to other items on your list, or written by the same writers, and we're left with not much of a Bible anymore, are we?
That about sums it up for me
a qfr in the watchtower asks ".
n what sense was the apostle paul “caught away to the third heaven” and “into paradise”?—2 cor.
they've been flip flopping regarding this, stating that it is paul talking about himself to paul talking about the congregation and back again to paul talking about himself.it appears that three years ago david splane gave a talk during the convention explaining their latest ideas and it has taken all this time for it to get into print.
I`ll check those out Saethydd how about T.V series or movie ?
on board his trip home from eire - the pope gave a 45 min on board press conference (26 aug 2018)..... "... the pope also highlighted the need for parents of gay children to have a dialogue with their offspring and not condemn them.
'your question is clear: what would i say to a father who sees that his son or daughter has that tendency?
i would say first to pray, don’t condemn, dialogue, understand, make space for them.
His humanity, versatility, understanding, and spirituality comes across. He is the beneficiary of higher education!
The Pope that is.
And what education level have the 8? popes of Jehovah`s Witnesses attained ? Certainly not higher education , because they frown upon it.
recent archeological discoveries have found that the ancient israelites were not exactly monotheistic to yahweh, apparently the israelites also worshiped a god which was seen as yahweh's wife asherah.
small carved sculptures have been found in places of worship and homesteads to support these findings.asherah's connection to yahweh, according to francesca stavrakopoulou, is spelled out in the bible and an 8th-century b.c.
inscription on pottery found in the sinai desert at a site called kuntillet ajrud.
Thank you Finkelstein for posting this enlightening thread.
i’m sorry that i talk about dating a lot, i know it is probably very annoying, but you don’t have to read it.
but did anyone else have the most difficult time dating as a young jw?
me and my boyfriend have been dating for a year in half, we are in our early 20’s, and we are still not allowed to hold hands, cuddle or kiss.
I`m sorry but I cant take this post seriously !
You are both in your early twenty`s ? And your carrying on like 12 year old`s ?
You say you don`t believe the religion so why are you still under their control ?
If your b.f. is then dump him he`s not a man.
If your still living at home move out and live your own life ,free to do whatever you want ,however the key word here is FREE.
I can`t believe you have been here 6 months claim to be an atheist /agnostic and you post this crap at your age.?
Sometimes being blunt is the only cure.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/31/jehovahs-witness-girl-could-receive-blood-against-her-will-during-childbirth.
a jehovah’s witness girl may be forced to receive a blood transfusion against her will this weekend when she gives birth in melbourne.. victoria’s mercy hospital was granted supreme court authority on friday to give the girl blood as a “last resort” if she suffers a postpartum haemorrhage when induced into labour on sunday afternoon.. the 17-year-old first-time mother is considered to be at increased risk of haemorrhaging because she is of “small stature” and the baby is large, meaning she may have a long labour, an assisted birth or an emergency caesarean section.. jehovah’s witnesses forbid followers from receiving blood transfusions or blood products.. the risk to the baby from the mother refusing blood is considered low.. the human tissue act has a provision that minors may be given blood transfusions without parental consent, but it was edited in 1994 with the concept of a “mature minor” who could “make up their own mind”, the court was told on friday.. however, the child psychiatrist campbell paul told the hearing he did not believe the girl had the “decision-making capacity” to be considered as having “gillick competence” – a term used to describe whether a child can consent to their own medical treatment.. paul said the girl had “been through considerable disruption and trauma through her life” and had “transgressed a major value of her family and her community” by having pre-marital sex.. “you could imagine that she feels very frightened” and worried about “further punishment”, he said.. the obstetrician and gynaecologist jacqueline van dam told the court she was concerned about the girl’s “naivety” that if anything happened, “she would be protected by her faith”.. she said several strategies could be undertaken first in the case of haemorrhage, such as injecting a drug to limit bleeding or stitching the uterus.. the girl’s mother, who said she would not consent to the hospital administering blood to her daughter, told the court receiving a transfusion would have a significant impact on the girl’s wellbeing.. “being forced to have that done against her will would be something like having violence done to her or being raped,” she said in a statement read to the court.. “she wants to do the right thing by jehovah, by god.”.
justice cameron macaulay granted mercy hospital the authority to give the girl a transfusion if necessary as “a last resort” but only if they first used all other strategies to stop the bleeding and obtained authority from two doctors.. “i’m not satisfied that [the girl] has the maturity to understand the consequences of her choice,” he said.. “i do not consider that allowing her, in effect, to choose to die ... is in her best interests.” .
Wasn`t there a post on here some time ago about a young lady whose parent`s refused a blood transfusion for her or her mother giving birth and the court intervened and a transfusion was given and as an adult she thanked the courts otherwise she would not be here today ?
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/31/jehovahs-witness-girl-could-receive-blood-against-her-will-during-childbirth.
a jehovah’s witness girl may be forced to receive a blood transfusion against her will this weekend when she gives birth in melbourne.. victoria’s mercy hospital was granted supreme court authority on friday to give the girl blood as a “last resort” if she suffers a postpartum haemorrhage when induced into labour on sunday afternoon.. the 17-year-old first-time mother is considered to be at increased risk of haemorrhaging because she is of “small stature” and the baby is large, meaning she may have a long labour, an assisted birth or an emergency caesarean section.. jehovah’s witnesses forbid followers from receiving blood transfusions or blood products.. the risk to the baby from the mother refusing blood is considered low.. the human tissue act has a provision that minors may be given blood transfusions without parental consent, but it was edited in 1994 with the concept of a “mature minor” who could “make up their own mind”, the court was told on friday.. however, the child psychiatrist campbell paul told the hearing he did not believe the girl had the “decision-making capacity” to be considered as having “gillick competence” – a term used to describe whether a child can consent to their own medical treatment.. paul said the girl had “been through considerable disruption and trauma through her life” and had “transgressed a major value of her family and her community” by having pre-marital sex.. “you could imagine that she feels very frightened” and worried about “further punishment”, he said.. the obstetrician and gynaecologist jacqueline van dam told the court she was concerned about the girl’s “naivety” that if anything happened, “she would be protected by her faith”.. she said several strategies could be undertaken first in the case of haemorrhage, such as injecting a drug to limit bleeding or stitching the uterus.. the girl’s mother, who said she would not consent to the hospital administering blood to her daughter, told the court receiving a transfusion would have a significant impact on the girl’s wellbeing.. “being forced to have that done against her will would be something like having violence done to her or being raped,” she said in a statement read to the court.. “she wants to do the right thing by jehovah, by god.”.
justice cameron macaulay granted mercy hospital the authority to give the girl a transfusion if necessary as “a last resort” but only if they first used all other strategies to stop the bleeding and obtained authority from two doctors.. “i’m not satisfied that [the girl] has the maturity to understand the consequences of her choice,” he said.. “i do not consider that allowing her, in effect, to choose to die ... is in her best interests.” .
The fact that the mother would rather let her daughter die than offend her J.W.religious leaders should that need arise speaks volumes as to how inhumane this religion really is.
The mother favour`s acceptance of her religious peers over the love of her daughter.
So sad.
I wonder how many other J.W. parents around the world have been down this path, lost their child to this religion and now regret it .
how outdated is the compulsion of people before the law courts of the land to take an oath on the bible to /swear on the bible to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help me god.or its equivalent affirmation.?.
and even if you do claim to believe in god but feel giving information to those who don`t deserve it then withholding such information is justified as theocratic warfare deliberately misleading those seeking such information.. if you don`t believe in a god ,you can lie all you like .. and in the case of geoffrey jackson at the a.r.c.
into institutions of child sexual abuse ,he had no problem misleading ,another word for lying to the a.r.c.
A person who does`nt believe in the Bible opts for the alternative to give an affirmation to tell the truth and if they are exposed as having lied while giving such testimony they can be charged with perjuring themselves .
And in the case of Geoffrey Jackson ,Vin Toole and the other Elders giving testimony ,how does an inquiry such as the A.R.C. distinguish if a person gives misleading information regarding religious beliefs/interpretations and practices ?
So they get away with it.
how outdated is the compulsion of people before the law courts of the land to take an oath on the bible to /swear on the bible to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help me god.or its equivalent affirmation.?.
and even if you do claim to believe in god but feel giving information to those who don`t deserve it then withholding such information is justified as theocratic warfare deliberately misleading those seeking such information.. if you don`t believe in a god ,you can lie all you like .. and in the case of geoffrey jackson at the a.r.c.
into institutions of child sexual abuse ,he had no problem misleading ,another word for lying to the a.r.c.
How outdated is the compulsion of people before the law courts of the land to take an oath on the Bible to /swear on the Bible to tell the truth and nothing but the truth so help me God.or its equivalent affirmation.?
And even if you do claim to believe in God but feel giving information to those who don`t deserve it then withholding such information is justified as Theocratic Warfare deliberately misleading those seeking such information.
If you don`t believe in a God ,you can lie all you like .
And in the case of Geoffrey Jackson at the A.R.C. into Institutions of Child Sexual Abuse ,he had no problem misleading ,another word for lying to the A.R.C. in giving evidence while under oath.
Neither did Vincent Toole the Jehovah`s Witness lawyer who gave misleading evidence.
Yes Geoffrey Jackson did take the oath and swore on the Bible to tell the truth and nothing but the truth ,whereas some other J.W.`s giving evidence at that same A.R.C. took the option to take an Affirmation to tell the truth.
Yet one and all they never spoke the honest truth ,trying to rationalize how they acted to the detriment of the children they were supposed to be protecting.
I don`t know how they live with themselves .
{ I thought they all spoke the same }
we all know tony the turd has an obsession with boys in tight pants.
i cant help but wonder what he thought about brother nelson (aka.
prince) who was known to squeeze into some tight numbers from time to time?.
sir82
Is spot on... .Such an occasion to deliver an important up building message to the people who are giving such a life saving message to the world that is facing judgement from a God that could mean their life or death ...., and he comes up with ...... tight pants and spanx ?