I`m glad to hear everything is working out fine for you Charles Gillette { Blueblades Pacemaker }
Take care
well,to all who had wished me good health before i went for my procedure,thank you.
9/14 pacemaker was inserted below my collarbone successfully.check up will be 9/18.. so, since 2012 when i was 67,i had open heart surgery to replace my aortic valve with a bovine tissue valve.
now at 73, i have an implanted pacemaker with two leads,one for the upper chamber, right atrium and one for the lower right chamber,ventricle of the heart.. so, my heart beats should now be steady and not in and out of afib.. both of my brothers died of heart attacks.
I`m glad to hear everything is working out fine for you Charles Gillette { Blueblades Pacemaker }
Take care
when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?
without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.
no communication systems operating .
Drearyweather
Smiddy, are you sure that JW's teach that all the physical infrastructure of this world will also be destroyed at Armageddon?
If its not, then who is going to maintain it ? and keep it going 24/7 ? Bros,and sisters will need to work round the clock to keep up with the living standards we take for granted today
What did Jehovah provide for the Israelites under Theocratic rule in Bible times eh ?
Nothing like what we in the Western world take for granted today with all the mod cons.at our fingertips.
when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?
without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.
no communication systems operating .
When God created Adam and Eve and put them in the Garden of Eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,God had no further hand in it .The responsibility rested with Adam/Eve and their offspring.
The same would be true in the Paradise to come ,God gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to J.W.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.? Without god`s intervention.
Think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.
8 Million + J.W.`s scattered throughout the earth with
No communication systems operating
No internet ,WiFi, Skype ,Telephones ,Tv, Radio.
No Sewerage
no Electricity
No Gas
No industry at all , nilch zero
Cars,refrigeration,planes,Air conditioning,all gone
No food markets such as Coles Woolworths Aldis etc ,etc.
And if you want all of these things you need people to be able to work on these projects which is going to take their time and energy to do so and they will need to continue to work on these projects to keep these utilities going.
Do you really want to go back into a third or even a fourth world environment ? Sub standard to what we are living now ?
So then I ask you if you want these mod cons now as we appreciate them in the New System /paradise how is paradise going to be any different than what it is now ?
Or do you view Jehovah as a magician who is going to wave his hand and miraculously provide all of your needs.
God has never acted that way and their is no evidence he ever will.
c.
i have just watched the glass smashing on the wt video on education.. please consider these experiences from the opposite side of that "coin".. i have heard young ones say out-loud on the mike in the kh that "jehovah is my special friend.."these ones who were at the top of the wt 'tree' pioneering, putting in the hours etc but, it followed that soon saying that pivotal statement they dropped their pioneering, faded, picked up the girl/boyfriend and suffered being dfd.. so where did their wt "education" leave them?
it left them as young adults naive to the world, unskilled, with no qualification to offer any employer and having to replace their former family/associates/friends with new ones.. ( dont get me going on shunning) in some cases with little success as we have read here where they moon about for months or longer unable to emotionally heal after the leaving or df'ing and also others with such a turn around they would never have believed it possible... there was a wt that related how a brother (!
) followed an interest in history and left the truth.
Where would this world be without education ,education,education.!
We would be still back in the stone age.
jehovah`s witnesses do not respect the ,governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member.
the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions govt`s, hand out to their citizens.after all the govts, are under the control of satan the devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with god.. so they feel justified in practicing deception as they the gov`ts.
being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.. i personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the govt.
Jehovah`s Witnesses do not respect the ,Governments of any nation from my experience with "witnesses" over 33 years as a card carrying member. the governments are to be exploited taking advantage of all the provisions Govt`s, hand out to their citizens.After all the Govts, are under the control of Satan the Devil ,he is the ruler of this world and is at enmity with GOD.
So they feel justified in practicing deception as they the Gov`ts. being opposer`s of truth have no right to know the real truth.
I personally knew of pioneers who had no intention of finding work but were happy to take unemployment benefits from the Govt. to fund their pioneer activity .
To do so they would have had to actively mislead the Govt. to keep receiving unemployment benefits.
And in contrast with all of the above is Rom.13:1-7 that the Governments of this world are the arrangement of God /Jehovah and whoever takes a stand against this arrangement must answer to God /Jehovah
it was shocking.. all these years later, i found myself crying for the dead for the first time..
That plane that went down in the field ,I think it was the last plane to crash ? ,I can`t help but think it was collateral damage control.
Military / Government Intel by this time knew that their were " targets" and the military were not going to let these highjacker`s reach that target so they brought it down .
They were going to die anyway best by our hand than theirs with much more loss of life.
That may not be easy to digest but it could explain why they never reached their intended target as the others did.
Am I the only one that thinks this way ?
I do not mean to offend anyone and I am truly sorry if this post does offend anyone.
i think trump will be the nominee for the republicans and the democrats... i have no clue.
i hope bernie sanders runs again and wonder if hillary would dare go for a rematch..
If I was an American I would have voted for Francis Underwood but seeing he is no longer eligible ,
I would if i was eligible cast my vote for Claire Underwood .
She has balls and can kick ass.
i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
They switched to a "contribution" basis for obtaining literature at the Kingdom Hall under the guise of lovingly simplifying the process when actually they did so to avoid loosing their non profit status or having to pay taxes because they were basically selling the literature to the publishers.
And didn`t they act as a "friend of the court" in Jimmy Swaggarts court case about paying taxes for sales of a religious nature voiding their stature as a non for profit religion ?
And this had to do with their change for charging for literature because Swaggart lost his case ?
Wasn`t this a case of getting into bed with false religion ?Supporting Jimmy Swaggarts Ministries in Court ?
the september broadcast opens up with a story of 80 yr old brother geoff who gave up been in a band all them years ago.
fast forward to 2018 and we have a world renown tennis player and jw as far as we’re told.. so where some are encouraged to leave the world and it’s futile pursuits of fame and fortune, others are not.
or even punished for their behaviour on court or for been photographed with their country’s flag where others have been executed for refusing to salute flags.
And here in Australia we have an AFL professional footballer who identifies as a Jehovah`s Witness although not baptized in his early 20`s who has "star" value as a player who earlier this year supposedly toyed with the idea of quitting football to pursue his religious duties of his faith pioneering full time .
Which of course he never did.
{ I don`t suppose it had anything to do with extracting more money from his club to retain him ? no of course not ! }
the wife got back from the convention, and mentioned one point from the co talk.. he gave the statistic that on average, there are about 780 people baptized every day in the world!
everyone was amazed.. i broke it to her that there used to be a lot more.
i recall giving a talk and at that time there were around 1200/day.
780 people a day out of 8 Billion+ people ? And 8 Million J.W`s.? who lets say average 10 hrs. a month ,that`s 80 Million hours a month witnessing/preaching.
It doesn`t sound like a good investment to me.
And what they don`t say is what % of those baptized are family members and what % are cold converts from the public.
My bet is the majority of those baptized are family members ,children and teens.