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  JW org collapses

  by I Faded Twice in

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  ok so this is a topic i've pondered and go back and forth on.. i can easily see a point where lawsuits cause massive deficits in the organization.

  honestly i feel like we are seeing the tip of the iceberg in regards to lawsuits on child abuse.

  to me it looks like the property sell offs are to be able to get ready for this.

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  "Jehovah`s Witnesses wont end with a bang but a whimper" Apologies Nevil Shute`s "On The Beach"
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  I yelled at dubs today ( again )

  by kairos in

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  2. friends

  so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

  both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

  i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

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  Good point Chook if its good enough for Jesus its good enough for any of us.

  Would the money changers rationalize they had the "truth" for being persecuted by Jesus ?
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  Critical thinking

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what kind of questions would you use to get a child'scritical thinking skills going from a young age with regards to the bible/god/jesus/anything to do with the religion??.

  my most hated answer jws gave to people when they said you can't see god so how do you know he exists was "well you can't see electricity or gravity but you know they exist".

  sorry but that doesn't prove god exists.

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  I think these questions need to be asked of Adult Jehovah`s Witnesses also because they need simple questions to get them thinking and reasoning.

  Which they surely lack.

  What I'm after though are simple questions that can get a child thinking and reasoning

  That is a good post F.r. getting children to see from an early age not to accept what might be widely believed on face value.

  My contribution : How about Samson and the 300 foxes ? Judges15:4-5 The absurdity of one man catching 300 foxes then corralling them ,tying their tales together and setting them off on fire among the Phillistines crops ?

  Its not as though foxes live together in one little community ,they cover a large/wide area.

  or Solomon offering up 22,000 cattle and 120,000 sheep as a sacrifice to Jehovah to what amounted to a dedication of a Kingdom Hall for the Israelites .1kings 8:63-66

  That`s 88,000 hoofs of cattle and 480,000 feet of sheep they they would need to dispose of because they wouldn`t eat them .

  568,000 in total what a bloodbath .

  Imagine all of the blood and gore spill`t their.

  { Kids will just love that information } LOL

  Slightly over the top don`t you think?
  
  
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  Has God preserved His word today?

  by JW Answers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has god preserved his word today?

  many people attack, doubt and fault god's word.

  yet god has made several promises in his word.he promised to preserve his word unto every generation,he promised that every word would be truth,he promised that we can rely and depend on his every word.satan wants nothing more than to dismiss, and cast doubt on god's word... so the question today is... do we have god's preserved word today?

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  Well at least he has a beard
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  Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.

  helena, mont.

  — two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.

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  The trouble is Jehovah`s Witnesses Hierarchy never viewed sex abuse of a child as a crime only as a sin and never felt compelled to report such abuse to any authority .

  And their dogmatic approach sticking to the "Two Witness" rule does'nt help them one bit.
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  Jehovah`s Witnesses and the Blood Doctrine / Kerry louderback Wood and her Thesis.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i just thought i might bring this up again for the many new people that that have come to this site .. the subject : "the tort of misrepresentation of blood transfusions by jehovah`s witnesses" by kerry louderback wood.

  kerry louderback wood p.a.law firm 2005. if you are interested in the subject download it as i am useless in doing so.

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  AWAKE May 22 1994 "YOUTHS WHO PUT GOD FIRST" and shows the faces of 26 youths who died adhering to the "NO BLOOD" doctrine of Jehovah`s Witnesses and portrays them as martyrs .

  "I am surprised there have not been lawsuits against the society for the misrepresentation". and for the omissions which is a form of lying contained in the pamphlet.

  So am I, Finally Left, and especially so if any of the parents of any of these children and others who have lost a loved one due to this flawed doctrine has since learnt the truth about the truth. (TTATT)

  This is an excellent article and should be mandatory reading for any Court / Hospital who has to deal with a similar situation .

  Thanks for your replies so far I hope many more read it.
  
  
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  Here's another subtle reverse-witnessing topic:

  by neat blue dog in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the next time a jw brings up a natural disaster or severe weather event as proof of the last days, and they preface it by reciting a fact they heard on the news like, (just for the sake of example) 'it's the worst earthquake in 70 years' or 'the worst plague in 200' years', (you get the picture), then simply reply: "oh, so that means that ____ years ago there was one that was worse, right?".

  i did this twice.

  both times got the same response:.

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  I have made this comment a few times ,its the biggest cyclone we have had i 50 years ,OK I say, so we had one as big as this 50 years ago? and umpteen more this big in the last few Centuries just like it.

  My J.W. niece said to me once when we were driving through a rural area ,"look how dry it is everything is brown no green growth anywhere

  "with reference to the "last days" I said its summertime dear we are in a drought its what happens this time most years.
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  I sent off my application to study Palaeobiology (MSc) at Bristol uni and ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... they've accepted me!

  finance is already sorted - they're waiting for me to give them my new student number so that they can start paying me.

  just need to formally accept bristol's offer and sort out accommodation.. accommodation should be ok - i've been told priority is given to new students, plus i'm enrolling onto a program for a real degree as a postgraduate - i won't be studying gender studies or some crap like that.

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  Good for you keep us informed how things are going

  Make us proud to be ex JW`s with the light that gets brighter .
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  Does Disfellowshipping only prohibit spiritual contact with a DF family member or friend?

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all through my life, now in my 40's, i've seen df people get completely shunned by family and friends, but an ex elder showed me the stfog book that says it's just spiritual contact that stops.

  so what's the crack?

  i'm mega confused, as i want to go p.o.m.o or ideally da but don't want to loose family..

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  Jehovah`s Witnesses speak out of both sides of their mouth depending on what they want to influence their hearers about.

  On the one hand it`s only about spiritual matters and even that they have two sets of standards and practices but in practice among the rank and file if you are DF you will be shunned full time ,if you are D.A. you will be shunned full time .

  No contact or association on any level unless it is extreme family business that cannot be avoided otherwise have no contact with that individual under any other circumstance.
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  Are All Baptized Witnesses Still Considered Ministers?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or is that old light??.

  many young men avoided the draft due to their being “ministers”.

  if everyone who is a jw is a minister, women and kids should share ministerial status and even be able to legally officiate and marry someone....as long as they are baptized..

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  "Your clear, affirmative answers to those questions give evidence that you are qualified for baptism as ordained ministers of Jehovah God....let us pray"

  So 10 year old children are recognized by Jehovah`s Witnesses as ordained ministers , with no Biblical studies or knowledge of Greek or Hebrew languages and only have to be dunked under water to be recognized as such ?

  And they have no Clergy class with ministers and Elders etc,etc, except when brought before a law Court when they claim clergy penitent privilege .