i want to thank jehovah's witnesses new world bible translation committee for changing the words, "mentally diseased" as found in the 1984 edition of the nwt, to "obsessed with arguments," as found in 1 timothy 6:4 in the 2013 revised nwt.. on february 6, 2012, david splane, the overseer of the watchtower's writing department received an open letter from me which i posted below especially for new posters.
the topic of my letter was in response to the writing department's statement that ..."apostates are mentally diseased" in their july 15, 2011 watchtower.
the 1984 edition of the new world translation reads:.
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The court case that Steven Unthank brought against the WTB&TS concerning the F&DS Class was discussed and posted here was 7 years ago.
and last commented on 2 years ago.
Here is the post Title:
"The JWs in the Crowd Gasped in Australian Court"
Use the search option at the top right hand corner of this page.
I attended one of the earlier proceedings and have met Steven
The loss of 135 Kingdom Halls sold in Germany means a lot of revenue for W.T. H.Q.in the USA .
However what I think is more important, what was the number of peak publishers in Germany in 2011 compared with the number of peak publishers in 2018.
I think that would give a more realistic view of whether the Jehovah`s Witnesses in Germany are on the decline or not.
ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
With the public notoriety of JWs being pedophile protectors/deniers they have made themselves worse than the Catholic Church. At least the Catholic Church no longer denies they have a problem. This increases the size of the embarrassing stain on the proverbial shirt of JWs.
And when you compare the numbers who are Catholics over 1 Billion members with Jehovah`s Witnesses a mere less than 9 Million members the Jehovah`s Witnesses come off as far worse than the Catholic Church with the problem World wide.
ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
Pat Garza : I'm Pat Garza , and I'm here to say that I was raped by Theodore Jaracz when I was a little girl, in the city of Los Angeles , he was the District Overseer at the time. There are two boys; their initials are "M.D." and "M.W.", if they could be found they could confirm my allegations- if I could find them they�re older than me, they were there, there were witnesses! We were terrified and silenced! We were not allowed to talk. My life was threatened and my brothers were threatened, they were going to be killed if I spoke.
That was a serious allegation made about 16 years ago and being brought up now should have some serious questions asked about the allegations ?
Did her parents know about this accusation? And did they do anything about it ?
Was it reported to the police or child protection Authorities ?
Have either of the two she mentioned as witnesses to this sexual abuse have ever come forward to substantiate her claims ?
For a case to go anywhere in a court of law evidence must be presented and /or witnesses must be presented to validate the allegations made, without either ,their is no case to answer .
I`m not disbelieving her claim but in all fairness their has to be more than just an allegation against somebody to prosecute or condemn them.
backstory:.
so my born-in cousin who recently left the org is looking to start an ex-jw / group instagram based in socal.
he asked me if i had any ideas for a photo that can used for the instagram page and this is what i made for him:.
I can`t stop laughing at most of them ,so funny and so true.
i have listened to steven unthank`s podcast and found it very informative and interesting and thought i would ask this question for anyone who is still a practicing member either a pimo or a pomo who only goes along for a family member ,whether this doctrine is still a part of the religions teachings ,or whether it has been dropped altogether .. your replies are much appreciated ..
i have listened to Steven Unthank`s podcast and found it very informative and interesting and thought I would ask this question for anyone who is still a practicing member either a PIMO or a POMO who only goes along for a family member ,whether this doctrine is still a part of the religions teachings ,or whether it has been dropped altogether .
Your replies are much appreciated .
i wanted to share a few recent pics of izabella with everyone.
this week marks her one year since her coming home from nicu.
she has been growing and changing so much these last few months in particular.
I`m glad she wasn`t on the front cover of that AWAKE magazine DK757
This is the same kid who received multiple blood transfusions of which Watchtower taught us that they were deadly. I know better now and she is the results of that as well as how far science has taken us.
Beautiful pics and congratulations to you and your wife for taking a stand for your child and ignoring JW/WT `s flawed directions on medical procedures .
If you haven`t already done so please read Kerry Louderback Wood`s thesis on "The Tort Of misrepresentation Of Blood Transfusions " of Jehovah`s Witnesses .
A woman who grew up in the JW religion became a lawyer and wrote this Thesis. Its excellent
Take care.
ok so this is a topic i've pondered and go back and forth on.. i can easily see a point where lawsuits cause massive deficits in the organization.
honestly i feel like we are seeing the tip of the iceberg in regards to lawsuits on child abuse.
to me it looks like the property sell offs are to be able to get ready for this.
"Jehovah`s Witnesses wont end with a bang but a whimper" Apologies Nevil Shute`s "On The Beach"
so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.
both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.
i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!
Good point Chook if its good enough for Jesus its good enough for any of us.
Would the money changers rationalize they had the "truth" for being persecuted by Jesus ?
what kind of questions would you use to get a child'scritical thinking skills going from a young age with regards to the bible/god/jesus/anything to do with the religion??.
my most hated answer jws gave to people when they said you can't see god so how do you know he exists was "well you can't see electricity or gravity but you know they exist".
sorry but that doesn't prove god exists.
I think these questions need to be asked of Adult Jehovah`s Witnesses also because they need simple questions to get them thinking and reasoning.
Which they surely lack.
What I'm after though are simple questions that can get a child thinking and reasoning
That is a good post F.r. getting children to see from an early age not to accept what might be widely believed on face value.
My contribution : How about Samson and the 300 foxes ? Judges15:4-5 The absurdity of one man catching 300 foxes then corralling them ,tying their tales together and setting them off on fire among the Phillistines crops ?
Its not as though foxes live together in one little community ,they cover a large/wide area.
or Solomon offering up 22,000 cattle and 120,000 sheep as a sacrifice to Jehovah to what amounted to a dedication of a Kingdom Hall for the Israelites .1kings 8:63-66
That`s 88,000 hoofs of cattle and 480,000 feet of sheep they they would need to dispose of because they wouldn`t eat them .
568,000 in total what a bloodbath .
Imagine all of the blood and gore spill`t their.
{ Kids will just love that information } LOL
Slightly over the top don`t you think?
