I naively just accepted what and how the WT depicted it in there illustrations without giving too much thought to it.
Silly me.
i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.
after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!
you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.
I naively just accepted what and how the WT depicted it in there illustrations without giving too much thought to it.
Silly me.
are we at least able to estimate?
and where are the funds from these sales going?
the official line is of course that it's to build halls in africa etcbut i don't believe it .
I can`t say how many KH`s have been sold around the world by now but I`m sure its a bloody lot.And most if not all KH`s have been built with volunteer labor and in many cases donated materials all for free.
When a KH is sold all of the profits go back to the USA HeadQuarters in other words the Governing body .
How else can they fly all around the world and live like royalty without having to do a days honest work.
2Thes.3;10
i'm watching john cedars rebuttal of the annual meeting, and right at the start stephen lett starts going on and on about spiritual food, how nutritious it is, how filling it is, it comes across as weird but it doesn't help admittedly that the guy looks like bozo the clown forgot his act.
but the thought just came to me as i'm eating dinner.. not everybody gets dinner.
not everybody gets three meals a day.
When you see your fellow wo/man hungry and thirsty offer them a Watchtower and say "go in peace"
i saw john cedars show last night about when he visited the headquarters and this was mentioned.. this is the first i heard of this.
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I left school in early 1950 @ 14 yrs of age ,did an apprenticeship in the leather-goods trade ,and then changed tack ,got a job in the photographic industry in a laboratory ,which opened up the way for me to be employed in the oil industry as a laboratory technician and officer 34 years until I retired some 12 years ago.
So I have worked 54 years with a 14 years old education as a child.
So I think it all depends on the individual and what they are capable of and not so much there level of education at the time..
We are all different ,some with far less education than me have gone on to be far greater than I could ever hope to achieve in my lifetime.
So i`m not sure that challenging Russells schooling credentials really matters .
i've been having a conversation with a young jw on twitter and have, once again, come up against beliefs that do not match up with official watchtower doctrine.
if you like you can read the full thread here (you'll need to click on some comments to open it all up).. anyway the upshot is that this jw, and many like her, believe that only truly wicked people will be killed at armageddon - not innocent babies and children or anyone who "didn't know better" perhaps because they didn't get a witness.
it's as though they cannot accept the obvious injustice of jehovah's morality.. this jw teenager believes that all these non-jw's who survive armageddon will get their chance to prove their loyalty during the 1000 year reign of christ - again, not a watchtower teaching.. i don't really have a question to ask, this is just an observation.
Hey nicolaou I don`t think its only the young that are ignorant of Watchtower doctrine ,I`m pretty bloody sure that many of the older ones are just as ignorant ,keeping up with new light discarding old light.
I think they are just being worn out by all of the many changes they have seen and because they have invested so much time energy and money into the religion ,pride wont allow them to call it quits.
And i`m not too sure that many JW`s especially the young care too much about doctrine ,it seems to me to be all about feelings ,emotions , patting pet panda`s ,living in so and so`s mansion that`s been left behind after the big "A"
Without thinking this through on any level,according to the Bible Adam and Eve would have had to work to maintain and spread the Garden of Eden '
God is not will not ,and has not anywhere in the Bible made life in general over a long period easy for mankind .
You have to work for your rewards.
i'm watching john cedars rebuttal of the annual meeting, and right at the start stephen lett starts going on and on about spiritual food, how nutritious it is, how filling it is, it comes across as weird but it doesn't help admittedly that the guy looks like bozo the clown forgot his act.
but the thought just came to me as i'm eating dinner.. not everybody gets dinner.
not everybody gets three meals a day.
Spiritual food doesn`t make hunger pains go away to those in need .
WT/JW need to put there money where there mouth is.
Oh that`s right all of the money there raking in now all goes to HQ in the USA ,in other words the GB.
this is my first post.
i feel intimidated because i don't really know computers to well and i hope that i don't break any rules.
i became a jw in 1981. i left in 91. i have so many questions.
Welcome KimD glad that you are now posting and sharing your experiences .
This site is truly a worldwide network of support and encouragement for all to enjoy .
take care.
Ask as many questions as you like KimD no matter how trivial it may seem to you there are many knowledgeable people here that can help you with any question you have .
just finished watching the talk by tony morris on john cedars channel.
sounded to me that he was hedging his bets.
on the one hand he says "this is it" and out of the other he says prophecies are best understood after they are fulfilled.
prophecies are best understood after they are fulfilled.
And this statement is coming from a GB member who is a recipient and directed by God`s Holy Spirit ?
What`s the point of a prophecy then ?
hey everyone my nice new friends.
i had my first visit with a therapist today.
i was totally open with everything.
I believe this site is therapy for me ,don`t get me wrong I`m not knocking you guys for going to a professional therapist ,I just feel that people on this site know more about where I`m coming from than a non JW.
And I feel speaking my mind and getting feedback off all you guys has been a tremendous help to me .
Whatever works for you I say.
Take care .
in an attempt to disparage a faded jw and to obtain their personal details, he deceptively partially quoted a statement from the jw.borg web site to the new york judge when he wrote, .
"disfellowshipping does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "the religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain.
the marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.
Don`t hold your breath !
Did Geoffrey Jackson get punished for misleading the Australian royal commission ? When he said " it would be presumptuous on my part to say that " when asked if JW`s were the only religion that God was dealing with( or some such question .)
Did Vincent O`Toole (lawyer) get punished when he misled the ARC when asked about "theocratic warfare" and stated he had heard about the phrase but never knew what it meant .Again( words to that effect.)