leaving neverland the micheal jackson documentary was just released and i must say watching it myself left me pretty disgusted but not necessarily surprised.. being that there is two accounts given by two separate boys, men now, leaves the impression that their stories are truthful and factual.. what one can take from this story is that mj was a megalomaniac that thought he had the power, money and personal stature to get away with just about anything he wanted, this included pedophilia with boys.
i wonder if the over oppression restrictive nature of being brought up a child in the jws religion had an effect to his loose out of control behavior of a super rich celebrity ?.
his celebrity status and wealth really came to him when he was a pubescent young boy/teen, money in such a huge amount made anything he wanted or could afford possible.. personally i think he was inherently gay and had pursued arranged marriages to protect his perceived public image, a pretentious act which was mostly devised as a money and business endeavor .
Didn`t one or both of these guys now claiming they were molested by MJ at one time defended him and denied that MJ had molested them ?
Why after all this time and now that MJ is dead and can`t defend himself have these allegations surfaced ? by those that defended him before ?
Not meaning to be cynical ,but is there $$$$$$ to be had here ? with this doco and those involved ?
Just asking .
since today dutch (ex)jws are asked to fill out an online survey by utrecht university with regard to (child) sexual abuse.as chairman of reclaimed voices i call on all dutch speaking (ex) jws to fill out this survey in case you were a victim of abuse or in case you know of someone else that was abused within the jehovah's witnesseswith your participation you contribute to an important investigation that is carried out.link to the survey: https://usbo.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/sv_4hkmbqjhlm0uhmh
Following a motion that was adopted in the House of Representatives on 3 July 2018, as researchers at Utrecht University we conduct an independent investigation into experiences with sexual abuse within the Dutch Jehovah's Witness community. We investigate the way in which people who report within the community are treated. Among other things, we examine whether the closedness in the community of Jehovah's Witnesses contributes to whether or not to report experiences with sexual abuse.
Thanks for supplying that link jochie and i hope many will take advantage of this secure online survey that will protect the identity of those who participate and protect there privacy.
today the 6-3-2019 .
the attorney general for the state of victoria, australia is to push legislation that will require priests to report any confession that reveals child abuse.. will elders be required to do so?
elders.
We can only hope so zeb that Elders ,clergy ,pastors ,priests,have a mandate to report child sexual abuse when they learn of it or face the consequences,hopefully a jail sentence .
so i was talking with my husband about all the things the organization is doing ie.
hiding pedophiles, lying about what 1914 was etc.
so his response was that the nation of israel had times when they weren’t doing the right thing, but it was still gods chosen organization.. another topic we were talking about was disfellowshipping.
Picking up on what TFG said is your husband aware that the F&DS class is only a "Theocratic Arrangement" and that no individual GB members make up the faithful slave ?
When Steven Unthank tried to sue WT in a court of law that was their response .There are posts about that case.
Also if God picked the"Bible Students" back in 1919 on the basis of what they believed and taught back then ,he would have to reject them now simply because they don`t believe anymore what they taught and believed back then ?
Good luck with enlightening him .
i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.
initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.
however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.
Maria Nieves, could it be that you are a very sensitive person and and have very low self esteem ? about yourself ?
I do not mean to be provocative or upset you in any way ,however I think you are worrying far too much about how your actions will affect your bible Study conductor / mentor than you are about how this situation unfolds and affects your feelings and mentality .
You need to look after your own well being and other people will look after there own ,and they will do so ,sometimes at your expense .
Do not be duped ,JW`s have a goal of getting people baptised into there religion ,once they realise you are not going down that path they will drop you like a sack of potatoes, unless they think they can work on you to reel you in like a fish on a hook,
There friendship with you is conditional , once they realise you don`t want to be a JW they will drop you like a hot potatoe
if this is old news then just scrap it.. .
looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .
https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.
i agree it sounds more like an Assembly Hall ,but what does that indicate ? Surely that the WT is in trouble somewhere along the line .
Ok I can see getting rid of some Kh`s but not Assembly halls so soon after they have been built ?
Churches of Christendom have lasted for Centuries in one religion or another and Jehovah`s Witnesses sell there KH`s / Assembly`s off after a decade or two ?
since the hbo documentary, more people are condemning mj.
will these child abuse allegations affect you if you ever liked his music?.
Frank Sinatra was a morally corrupt person yet you cannot deny nor ignore his gift as a singer.
I can separate the man or woman from their art.
If I decided to judge a person’s morals in order to enjoy music, arts or entertainment, I wouldn’t be enjoying too much of anything.
I think these quotes sum up my thinking very well
hi everyone, i got the news that the lawsuit against the watchtower for the child abuse issue has been accepted in quebec(canada).
that means it can proceed further.
it is a first victory.
I do believe that the religion ( JW`s) is the correct one according to the Bible.
Thank you Rattigan350 for clearing that up ,it explains a lot.
Regarding your past posts .
today while i was having my groceries checked out, a lovely woman came up next to me in the line.. i glanced over at her... her face screamed "i'm a pain in the ass!
" she was obese and frumpy, and (i know maybe i'm projecting a little too much here...) she seemed to exude a sense of superiority, like, "i'm too good to be around these losers.".
i paid for my food and made a point of being especially nice to the checker because i figured her next person was going to be unpleasant.. as i was gathering my things, the checker asked this lovely woman, "is plastic ok?
Good point my friend ,if they want to advertise like this then they must be on their good behaviour 24/7 and not put a step wrong in there dealings or attitudes to others.
Otherwise it will have a negative adverse reaction to the religion.
Whoopie doo.
what exjw sites could i refer a seeker of true to look at besides this one?.
since this is the only exjw web site that i'm a member of, i would like to make mention of other web sites for people to look at in my book.
i only know of two others.. jw facts and jw survey.
my first experience was Shauns research on Jehovah`s Witnesses and Free Minds about 15 years ago.
That led me here.
