Did this tragedy get anything like the news coverage we are seeing with the NZ tragedy ?
I don`t recall seeing this before .?
why are the leaders of the watchtower corporation modestly silent about this shame jehovah witnesses?.
all children jehovah witnesses potential terrorist?.
only not politics!
Did this tragedy get anything like the news coverage we are seeing with the NZ tragedy ?
I don`t recall seeing this before .?
climate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
On the other hand does all of the coal fired power stations around the world contribute to any Climate change ?
Does all of the exhaust fumes of all the cars around the world contribute to any change in Climate ?
They say there is a City in the sky above us with over 1 million people anytime of the day or night flying above us .
All of these Jets spew out exhaust fumes constantly all around the world night and day ,how much pollution are they causing every minute of the day and night ? Do they contribute to any change in climate ?
I don`t know ,but surely it must be having some effect somehow on the environment because the environment was never subjected to this amount of man made pollution 200 years ago.
one of the most despicable things i can remember is having the elders determining whether or not you “qualified” for proper funeral services in a kingdom hall and if the talk could be given by an elder.
people are hurting terribly and the family is then told, even though the deceased was a member of the congregation, they still weren’t good enough to qualify for proper burial services per the congregation!
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I don’t think the Roles is real!!!!! But what if it is !!
i've been thinking about the wt's disciplinary system -- marking, private reproof, public reproof, disfellowshipping.
did you find their system oppressive while you were a jw?
did you find the system theoretically okay but unfairly applied (playing favorites, etc.)?
I`m sad to say I was too far indoctrinated and I blame myself because I wanted to believe it at the time.
i was listening to an overnight abc radio broadcast with rod quin ?in the early hours of the morning 14/3/19.
and with him was a guest of the labour party of newcastle nsw ,sorry her name escapes me.. and some issues were raised that i never knew of, that survivors might have .hopefully i can articulate them here as i understand it.
and remember it ....we all know the trauma that a child will go through with being abused and some will go off the rails because of that and commit some crimes of their own maybe in their teen years .. anybody who has committed a crime and spent time in jail can not take part in the redress scheme.
One other thing that I recall about the Redress Scheme and the ARC into Institutionalized Child sexual Abuse was that because of so many institutions that were involved and so many people were interviewed the ARC estimated there could be as many as 60 thousand people who may take advantage of the scheme ,however as of late February their were less than 3 thousand who had taken up the option to take advantage of the redress scheme.
So the question remains is it because of the problems listed in the above post and/or are their other problems also that exist that puts victims off applying to this scheme.
news reports.
"golf-ball size hail.
" anyone know anyone who was under that?.
And what if it turns out to be true that it was a Muslim who did this slaughter ? against his own kind ?
sorry if this has gone off topic.
It wasn`t me
i was just thinking how greatful wt can be that they dfed him when they did.
could you imagine the hammering they would be taking now from the ex-jw community, in light of the recent documentary.
i’m by no means sticking up for them i’m just saying, that’s all..
Was it ever really announced from the platform that MJ was DF ? I must have missed something.
Even if MJ had still been a JW they would reason that he wasn't really because you're not a real JW if you are sinning....( or committing a crime )
I love this reasoning : By that same argument their are no Catholics in jails because if you are a real Catholic you wouldn`t commit the crime / sin
i was listening to an overnight abc radio broadcast with rod quin ?in the early hours of the morning 14/3/19.
and with him was a guest of the labour party of newcastle nsw ,sorry her name escapes me.. and some issues were raised that i never knew of, that survivors might have .hopefully i can articulate them here as i understand it.
and remember it ....we all know the trauma that a child will go through with being abused and some will go off the rails because of that and commit some crimes of their own maybe in their teen years .. anybody who has committed a crime and spent time in jail can not take part in the redress scheme.
The Australian Royal Commission and the Police & the Law recognize that Child Sexual Abuse is a crime and not just a sin in Gods sight .
So why aren`t those Priests ,Pastors ,Elders ,Deacons ,or any other person in authority in a secular institution not charged in some way for not reporting this abuse to the appopriate authority when it has been brought to their attention ,in other words they have been complicit in concealing this crime against minors that has been brought to there attention ?
climate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
I think , no ,I believe Incognigo Montoya has the finger on the pulse .
I concur with all you had to say on the subject
what does the mandate to "abstain from blood" mean for jehovah's witnesses freed from the control of the governing body?.
it had previously been understood that the best translation of acts 15: 28-30 was "to abstain from blood.
" however, a careful analysis of the passage shows that the best translation of this passage is "to abstain from (shedding) blood," where the word "pour out," which does not appear in ancient manuscripts and other biblical versions, does.it appears there understood in elliptical form.in the same way it happened in the case of colossians 1: 16-20 where the new world translation of the holy scriptures correctly inserted the word "other" several times, understood there in elliptical form, in the phrase of the original greek "all things ", thus obtaining the correct translation" all (other) things ".even though christianity reaffirms itself in translating this passage as saying that "through him all things were created", because he maintains that jesus is god according to his pagan doctrine of the trinity, multiple biblical passages sustainthe biblical truth that jesus is not jehovah god, but his beloved son that god later used as his creative partner.according to this paul said that "though he existed in the form of god, he did not give consideration to a usurpation, namely, that he should be equal to god, no, rather, he emptied himself and took the form of a slave and he came to be in the likeness of men, more than that, when he was in the manner of a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death, yes, death on a torture stake, for this same reason, also, god he exalted a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above all else, so that in jesus' name every knee of those [who are] in heaven and those who are [over] the earth and those [who are] under the ground, and openly recognize * every tongue that jesus christ is lord for the glory of god the father.
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