Tatiana
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I Am Legend JW email
by Descender inso my sister-in-law, who is a pretty hardcore jw, showed me an email that looked like it had been passed around quite a bit, so i figured someone on here had probably seen it.
supposedley it's a picture from the movie "i am legend" where will smith is walking through new york and all the buildings in the background are in ruins except for the bethel building, which stands out, undamaged and clean.
i watched the movie and don't remember seeing anything like that so i just figured that some jw photoshopped it and sent it out to the jw community to show that the bethel building is protected by god even in a post apocaliptical world run over with zombie vampires.
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Apostafest Christmas at A&W's- Guess who's coming to dinner?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini am so excited about christmas, i've only celebrated 2 since 1978.. i will be having a mini - apostafest with some jwders on the saturday after christmas along with family (even some of my ex-husband's family).
whoo hoo !
bumble bee and memario will be coming from canada and they are also bringing mincan!
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Tatiana
Well, well....I see how it is. Try to pretend I wasn't there, and sweep it all under the carpet. Sure....I expected more than JK to own up.
Sorry, guys.....I guess no one appreciated my over the top non-sense of humor. Leaving thread now with tail firmly tucked where the sun don't shine.
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MORE Radio discussion of Dennis Lindberg: His Dad speaks up!
by Nathan Natas intoday seattle talk radio host mr. dori monson had an interview with dennis lindberg senior - the father of the 14 year old jw who elected to die rather than take a blood transfusion to help cure his leukemia.. one call that stood out to me was from a jw who called and said that in his 40 years as a jw, he never knew of anyone who was da's or df'd for taking a blood transfusion.
he got real evasive when the host tried to clarify the point.
what is immediately obvious to us is that the jw did not say he knew anyone who had taken a blood transfusion; only that he did not know any who were da'd or df'd for taking a transfusion.
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Tatiana
Best quote so far.....
The Watchtower is Jonestown in slow motion.
edited to add link once more.....
http://blogs.king5.com/archives/2007/11/a_matter_of_fai.html#comment-2083608
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MORE Radio discussion of Dennis Lindberg: His Dad speaks up!
by Nathan Natas intoday seattle talk radio host mr. dori monson had an interview with dennis lindberg senior - the father of the 14 year old jw who elected to die rather than take a blood transfusion to help cure his leukemia.. one call that stood out to me was from a jw who called and said that in his 40 years as a jw, he never knew of anyone who was da's or df'd for taking a blood transfusion.
he got real evasive when the host tried to clarify the point.
what is immediately obvious to us is that the jw did not say he knew anyone who had taken a blood transfusion; only that he did not know any who were da'd or df'd for taking a transfusion.
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Tatiana
The blog is still active today. And I am still following this.
From what I've read so far, Dennis' "girlfriend," Morgan, was harassed by the school principal and her parents have written a formal complaint. Many people are writing the hospital and congress. This is not going to go away!
Do you want to know how Dennis' trusted non-JW adult friend was able to see him? She had to force her way in while her husband helped. Dennis did not say, "I" want to follow my faith - he said "MORE PEOPLE" want me to follow my faith. It's too bad the aunt discontinued his web site thru Caringbridge, I would encourage everyone to read the JW posts encouraging just this. Behind closed doors, at the hearing before the judge ruled (I can talk about this now because it was not sealed), Dennis' aunt slipped and said SHE cannot allow him to have a transfusion because it was against HER religion. She did not say "OUR or DENNIS'" religion. Finally, when Dennis said he trusted his doctor's and if all else failed he will consider a transfusion, he did not say he would fight it, pull out the IV's, etc. He just wanted someone to take care of him.
The doctors were going to transfuse him, Dennis trusted their medical judgment, and it wasn't until AFTER the aunt had petitioned the courts for emancipation (and lost) that she went back to the hospital administrators, once again, and begged for "mature minor" status. It was finally granted - in the aunt's own writing she said, "VICTORY!" [The hospital administrators have given Dennis this status], "I feel like a burden has been lifted off of my shoulders". Of course the burden was lifted, SHE didn't have to fight against the transfusion anymore. The towel was thrown to Dennis - he didn't have a chance. Choose transfusion and live, or follow the faith and the aunt's wishes who "rescued" him from his drug consumed parents. He knew he would be shunned from his family as well as his aunt. I know this because he told me this years ago when he "adopted" her religion.
I also know first hand that there were several times she threatened to return him to the state, that she "couldn't handle it anymore". But once he accepted JW and received "praise" for doing JW work, all was fine. So he knew too well that he would lose his family if he choose the transfusion. No child should EVER be put in this position. I don't care about the JW faith, I care that they are murdering children. Encouraging Children's Hospital's around the nation to stop providing "mature minor" status and fine tuning the law regarding this grey area 12-18 minor's choice of life or death the avenue that needs to be pursued. Otherwise there will always be these forms going on, arguing over children dying, and people like Owen who doesn't have a clue about the children involved but tries to "pretend" he does so he can protect a religion. Take religion out of this please, this is just about a child who didn't want to die, but didn't feel he had any other choice.
Posted by: Dennis' Friend
I don't mind telling the princpal's name of LaVenture Middle School: Dan Berard. Scuttle has it that the district may use him as the "fall guy" for this whole mess. My wife just completed her formal complaint letter that a school board member asked for - it does not paint a pretty picture, listed all the school district policies and procedures he violated. We are asking for both a private and public apology to Morgan, among other things. We'll see how it goes.
Ann, Dennis' aunt took over his care in 4th grade when his parents (her bother), due to meth addiction, couldn't care for him (dad wound up in jail for drugs during this time, mom disappeared). They did enter rehab after he left and have both been clean for 4 years (minor mishaps along the way, but nothing major). They were going to move here to be closer to him, but due to their past they new they would not get him back. The aunt gained full custody this past January. They made mistakes, but still loved him. He visited them this past summer for several weeks with his grandmother from FL.
I'll check into this doctor - one of the doctors in the "hearing" with the judge (via phone -can't rememmber name)asked if he allowed mature minor status & discontinued treatment in the past for 14 yr olds - this doctor replied "yes", similar age, similar illness, similar religion BUT then told the judge "I also feel I made mistakes by doing this." The judge ignored this comment obviously. There were other doctors involved, his aunt kept going to a different doctor until she found one that supported her. Diekema must be the one she found - but thought he had a female doctor in the end. So many came and went though.
Neither parent were in the original "hearing", but we were all in the courtroom with King 5 news when the judge said "no transfusion", his parents with their attorney's were asking for a transfuaion.Spent time with both of them and Dennis' grandmother from FL when Morgan put his memorial service together. Morgan is establishing a relationship with his grandmother, who - before flying in for the service, changed her will to remove her daughter (Dennis' aunt), subsequently losing her only 2 grandchildren in the process. Yep, she was telling everyone while she was here that the JW's "murdered" her grandson - and on King 5 news. Good for her.
Posted by: Gary Curry | December 29, 2007 1:06 PM
I've also learned that "Nathan Knott guy is one smart cookie, eh?" But, I knew that already.
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Apostafest Christmas at A&W's- Guess who's coming to dinner?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini am so excited about christmas, i've only celebrated 2 since 1978.. i will be having a mini - apostafest with some jwders on the saturday after christmas along with family (even some of my ex-husband's family).
whoo hoo !
bumble bee and memario will be coming from canada and they are also bringing mincan!
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Tatiana
The day started out nice enough....
That's me, A&W, JJ, BB, and mincan. noni is off somewhere buying something.
There were bike races....
A&W cooked us a nice homemade meal.....some new kind of lamb. Superb flavor, and the wine went well with it.
After dinner, camels rides for all. What a great hostess!
wait...why are my camels feet tied together? No wonder I stayed in that spot for five hours.
But, what could have been a great weekend turned ugly. Practical jokes got out of hand.....yea, yes, that IS me under there. Revenge is sweet.....
Poor, poor, JK....so, so wrong on so many levels.
A nice, wholesome game of Twister...
....got way out of hand. A&W did not tell us she'd invited the whole damned neighborhood.
Unfortunately, when we tried to break it up and take it indoors, things went from bad to worse.
This is where I had to draw the line, fellow JWDers.
Now you just watch and see if A&W doesn't start another thread with some fake ass pics to try and cover up what REALLY happened. I swear.....you can't trust anyone on this board! And this will be my LAST get-together.....
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Apostafest Christmas at A&W's- Guess who's coming to dinner?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini am so excited about christmas, i've only celebrated 2 since 1978.. i will be having a mini - apostafest with some jwders on the saturday after christmas along with family (even some of my ex-husband's family).
whoo hoo !
bumble bee and memario will be coming from canada and they are also bringing mincan!
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Tatiana
So, I managed to curtail any behavior I thought might interfere with our study Sunday...for a while at least. Here's mincan with A&W's shirt on. Unfortunately, he didn't give her anything to put on while he decided to cross-dress, and I refuse to post the pic of her without her shirt.
And being the nice person that I usually am, I wasn't going to post the reason for Abandon's hasty departure, but I've had three shots of Grey Goose, and what the hell.....
And yes, I will take the some of the blame for his leaving. We all should be ashamed. That mob mentality took over, and we ignored the scripture....Bad association spoils useful habits. Abandon.....I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry. I will make it up to you. I promise.
What really upset me is that while we were drinking, discussing Bible doctrine, and becoming more and more intoxicated, no one was paying any attention to the children!!!!! Social Services arrived....well....THAT is another thread! Thank Jehovah they didn't get these pics as evidence!
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Apostafest Christmas at A&W's- Guess who's coming to dinner?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini am so excited about christmas, i've only celebrated 2 since 1978.. i will be having a mini - apostafest with some jwders on the saturday after christmas along with family (even some of my ex-husband's family).
whoo hoo !
bumble bee and memario will be coming from canada and they are also bringing mincan!
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Tatiana
Memario had a problem with being photographed due to having to give the public talk Sunday, so would only allow non-facial pics.
Although freedom frog had no qualms about pics.
We ran out of beer at one point, and of course we had to send JK out to get it. So much for that sharp mind of his.
Here he is coming back with our beer......wow, all that walking sure made him drop the pounds, huh?
As for that great air mattress JK said I could share...yeah, right! Men....I swear they wouldn't know the truth if it bit them in the ass.
At least mincan, JK and Abandoned (before he got sick) got to share a room. Poor noni and bb had to sleep outside.
Some hospitality. The snow melted really fast too! It was a miracle.
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Apostafest Christmas at A&W's- Guess who's coming to dinner?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ini am so excited about christmas, i've only celebrated 2 since 1978.. i will be having a mini - apostafest with some jwders on the saturday after christmas along with family (even some of my ex-husband's family).
whoo hoo !
bumble bee and memario will be coming from canada and they are also bringing mincan!
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Tatiana
Shhhhhhhhhh..........................
A&W doesn't know I'm posting these. I actually DID get to go, and I have my laptop with the webcam. Don't tell her, ok? Mama told me not to come.....
JK's car broke down, and he had some trouble getting there. Lucky for him he had his bike strapped to the trunk.
Abandoned got sick and had to leave. Shame...I was really looking forward to some deep Christian conversation.
A&W had the most amazingly beautiful Christmas tree. She even gave me one of her prized ornaments. What a sweety!
I wasn't expecting BB to be such a party animal. She got us all into the apostafest mood right away! I only had a problem with the stupid Steelers T-shirt she had on. Geez.....
Of course we all knew that when mincan arrived, it would quickly degenerate into "worldly" activities.
More to follow. I am obligated to set the record straight here.
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I am having a bad day
by Vivamus init is wearing me down.. my constant companion in life, my skull-breaking- mind-blowing- daily migraines finally got the better off me six months ago.
i broke down, i cried and cried and cried.
not only cuz of the pain, but more for the fact that painkillers were not helping me anymore.
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Tatiana
VIV.....i'd really try the food allergy thing. my sister is allergic to msg (monosodium glutamate) and when she eats it, even accidentally, a non curable migrain always follows. it is in all salty and fake cheese products (soup, cheese it crackers, all chinese food, crackers, pizza, some regular cheese, ext, its everywhere, research it) you could try going all organic for a week and see how you feel. DONT GIVE UP! your body uses pain as a signal something is wrong, just try to listen, and don't give up hope. My little girl was allergic to thigns I'd eat in my diet when I was nursing and she would cry and cry and scream (colic) but after i went organic and slowly added things back in, BINGO! all cured.... some people's bodies are just extra sensitive, be grateful to God you have such a responsive body!!
Brooke
I was going to say something to the same effect. I have had terrible migraines for a while. I actually throw up, have to be in total darkness, and sometimes they last for days. I don't have high blood pressure, but did have back problems. A chiropractor can do wonders. Also, I love red wine, but the sulfites (and nitrates) are terrible and can cause severe migraines. Not only wine, almost EVERYTHING has sulfites. Here is a link to some more info....
http://www.nutrition4health.org/nohanews/NNS02DietMigraineHeadaches.htm
In addition to the occurrence of headache, nitrites can cause . . . low oxygen in the blood . . .
Do what works best for you and blow off the others. It's your head and you have to keep yourself healthy and sane...so if you find triggers, work through that the best way you can
for you. Everyone has a different level of what they can handle. Unfortunately, finding out where you fall can be a painful process for a while. Read labels and learn what the names are for some of the sulfites/nitrates. You never know...it could be a cause. -
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Watchtower Presidents on my Wii
by GermanXJW ini just created miis of russell and rutherford on our new nintendo wii.
it will be fun when they appear in baseball or tennis.
maybe we can do a mii-competition.
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Tatiana
LOL...I love Wii. I'm a golf fanantic, and I HATE golf!
I would love to see your characters.
Glad you all had a great time. 
VIV.....