Posts by Duran

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

Duran

That account is found in two Gospels; Luke 8 and Mark 5. Here's my question. In Both accounts all the people at the house are crying and wailing loudly saying the girl is dead.
Jesus tells them the girl is NOT DEAD BUT SLEEPING.

For someone who expects BILLIONS upon billions of people that have lived the past two thousands years, to believe some man that lived 2000 years ago, and has the power to resurrect hundreds of billions of people who have died from the time of Cave Men, with every single one of their memories intact IT'S ASKING A LOT base on three measly resurrections that are questionable to begin with.
Instead he resurrects less than three people in his entire lifetime, two that weren't even buried yet, and one in a secluded place with only friends around to witness the event.

What impact would that have on convincing people that this man performing thousands of resurrections was God or sent by God?
If this man said; "Follow me and you will have life eternal"

It's found in 3 accounts, not 2.

It seems that you are the only one questioning what a resurrection is or is not. Whether the 12-year-old girl was clinically dead or in a comatose state, she apparently was in a state that her parents could not awaken her, and Jesus came and brought her out of the state, back to a lively awoken state.

Yet today we are talking about those 3 measly so-called resurrections from nearly 2,000 years ago. I wish I had a $1 for everyone today that believes that these 3 events took place.

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

Duran

Jesus is the TRUTH....He has no Sin......He cannot LIE.
The People are sinners....they are prone to lie..........they were not doctors.
So who do we believe? Jesus to tell the truth, or the People who said she had died?
If we believe Jesus tells the truth, then The Girl was not dead because Jesus said so. The people who said she had died were all lying because of ignorance. That means Jesus DID NOT RESURRECT THE LITTLE GIRL.

[49 While he was yet speaking, a representative of the presiding officer of the synagogue came, saying: “Your daughter has died; do not bother the Teacher any longer.” 50 On hearing this, Jesus answered him: “Have no fear, only have faith, and she will be saved.” 51 When he reached the house, he did not let anyone go in with him except Peter, John, James, and the girl’s father and mother. 52 But people were all weeping and beating themselves in grief for her. So he said: “Stop weeping, for she did not die but is sleeping.” 53 At this they began to laugh at him scornfully, because they knew she had died. 54 But he took her by the hand and called to her: “Child, get up!” 55 And her spirit returned, and she rose immediately, and he ordered that something be given her to eat.]

[11 After he said these things, he added: “Lazʹa·rus our friend has fallen asleep, but I am traveling there to awaken him.” 12 The disciples then said to him: “Lord, if he is sleeping, he will get well.” 13 Jesus, however, had spoken about his death. But they imagined he was speaking about taking rest in sleep. 14 Then Jesus said to them plainly: “Lazʹa·rus has died, 15 and I rejoice for your sake that I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.”17 When Jesus arrived, he found that Lazʹa·rus had already been in the tomb for four days. ” 43 When he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice: “Lazʹa·rus, come out!” 44 The man who had been dead came out with his feet and hands bound with wrappings, and his face was wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them: “Free him and let him go.”]

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

Duran

Yet you compared a man that brings a child into this world of suffering...with God

It was in regard to having a 'choice' as well as 'suffering'.

Why do parents (man/woman) make the 'choice' to bring children into a world full of 'suffering'? Is that a LOVING thing to do?

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

Duran

The common mistake of confusing God with man, as you did above. You are correct tho, you were powerless in coming into existence, whereas God was powerful for bringing you into it.

There is no confusing the two on my part and he didn't bring me into it.

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

Duran

The choice is ours.

Choice...LOL!

Adam and Eve did not choose to be created.

I or my wife did not choose to be born.

God choose to created Adam and Eve (Assuming if story is true.)

My parents (mother) choose to have the baby that they conceived together (me).

Likewise, my wife's parents (her mother) choose to have the baby they conceived together (her).

My wife and I choose to have NO children. Why? I suppose we could say out of LOVE for the non-existent child/life.

If the Bible is true, we are told that this world is in the power of the evil one, Satan, and that suffering is unavoidable in this world under his rule. We are told to pray for a ruler to come that will end Satan's rule and along with that, will end all suffering.

Well for my wife and I it is a no brainer; we didn't have a choice in our being brought into this world of suffering under Satan's rule, but we sure as hell had/have a choice NOT to bring a child into this suffering world. We chose not to subject any child/life to suffering.

If the Bible is not true, the above remains the same when it pertains to me and my wife. The world is still shit and full of suffering and by choice we chose not to subject any child/life to it.

Anybody who chooses to have children knowing that they are brought into a world where they WILL suffer... well I guess you could say they are no better or worse than God in that regard.

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serena williams

by FreeFallin in

not really a scandal, but serena williams doing the crip walk on national tv wtf .

Duran

If one was rumored to be having an affair, elders or certain ones in the congregation took to peeping in windows to try and catch them

LOL.....that sounds a little far-fetch.
I can't even picture a group of elders peeping in someone's window to try to catch them doing wrong.

Not far fetch at all. In the earlier 90's I personally knew a guy who his parents, him, and his sister were JWs. He and his sister married two JWs. Then after about 10 years he did start seeing some women he worked with. He left his JW wife. His parents, his sister, her husband (his brother in-law) didn't have any contact with him after that. But then came the time when his ex-wife (still a JW) wanted to remarry but was told that she was not Scripturally free because her ex did not remarry and there was no proof/witnesses to him and the woman he worked with.

That being the case, his brother in-law who was an elder along with another elder went and hid in the bushes at his bedroom window to peek and get said proof that he was with the said woman. Then the dip-shit elder brother in-law said to him through the window, 'we got our proof', ______ your ex is free to remarry!

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The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.

rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.

while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.

Duran

[ 19 Then he said: “Here I am causing you to know what will happen in the final part of the denunciation, because it is for the appointed time of the end.]

[ 31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature.“And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively. 33 And those having insight among the people will impart understanding to the many. And they will be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for some days. 36 “The king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and magnify himself above every god; and against the God of gods he will speak astonishing things. And he will prove successful until the denunciation comes to a finish; because what is determined must take place.]

[23 “And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, a fierce-looking king who understands ambiguous sayings will stand up. 24 His power will become great, but not through his own power. He will bring ruin in an extraordinary way, and he will be successful and act effectively. He will bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of the holy ones. 25 And by his cunning he will use deception to succeed; and in his heart he will exalt himself; and during a time of security he will bring many to ruin. He will even stand up against the Prince of princes, but he will be broken without human hand.]

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The 'appointed time of the end' is the 42 months that the KOTN/DT/small horn/fierce king/MOL/8th king is given power and will prove successful until he is broken without human hand/throw into the fiery lake when Jesus comes after those 42 months. Those 42 months are what is known as the judgment on the house of God and is the time of GT upon them. (1 Peter 4:17;Luke 21:24;Rev 11:2,3;13:5,7,10 Rev 19:19-21;2 Thessalonians 1:7-10)

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The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.

rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.

while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.

Duran

How about this: The King of the North has been Trump,

🤦‍♂️ Don’t encourage them. They might believe it.

LOL!

The KOTN is called the Disgusting Thing.

Donald Trump

[ 31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature. “And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation.32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively...36 “The king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt himself and magnify himself above every god; and against the God of gods he will speak astonishing things. And he will prove successful until the denunciation comes to a finish; because what is determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the God of his fathers; nor will he show regard for the desire of women or for any other god, but he will magnify himself over everyone.]

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

Duran

Yeah, so according to you it started with his arrest. I gave you that, but what you fail to answer is how does that compare with us humans?

[ 17 Bearing the torture stake for himself, he went out to the so-called Skull Place, which is called Golʹgo·tha in Hebrew. 18 There they nailed him to the stake alongside two other men, one on each side, with Jesus in the middle.... 30 When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said: “It has been accomplished!” and bowing his head, he gave up his spirit.31 Since it was the day of Preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the torture stakes on the Sabbath, the Jews asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken away. 32 So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first man and those of the other man who was on a stake alongside him. 33 But on coming to Jesus, they saw that he was already dead, so they did not break his legs.]

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

Duran

But, one thing is for sure; It's not like God is asking us to do something he wasn't willing to do.

I suppose you saying God was willing to suffer is because your God is Jesus. So that said, when did Jesus (your God) suffer? Was it on the cross for 3 hours, from 12:00pm to 3:00pm? Was it from the time he was arrested around 6:00am until 3:00pm..so 9 hours?

How does that compare with what us humans go through day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year?