2. That the Tetragrammaton was better transliterated "Yahweh"
Why do you think יְהוָֹה is better as Yahweh?
How would you spell this name in English?
יְהוֹשָׁפָט
Posts by Duran
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12Are There any JW Teaching that you DO Agree With?
by NotFormer in(apologies for the typo in the title.
"teaching" should read "teachings".
i misread vanderhoven7's most recent post as being the above.
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Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!
by BoogerMan init-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".
it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.
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Get ready...You won't have your precious 607 BCE or 1914 anymore in just a short while.
They already don't have it, that's why Scholar won't/can't answer this:
[w02 11/1 - In 1914 the prophetic words of Revelation 11:15 were fulfilled: The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.” ]
[w51 7/15 - At this eventful time the seventh angel blows his trumpet, that is, after the 1,260 days ended in 1918. Then it is that these wonders can come to pass. “And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven saying: ‘The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king for ever and ever.’]
Did the 7th trumpet/3rd woe occur in Oct 1914 or in April 1918?
Did the 1,260 days/2nd woe occur in April 1911-Oct 1914 or Oct 1914-April 1918?
Or are the 42 months/2nd woe the future GT and the 3rd woe comes after those months when Jesus comes with God's kingdom, ending the kingdom of this world (Satan's)?
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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.
for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.
any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.
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Yes, that 2022 WT was an example of them just claiming that they were just going to turn on BTG. Now in the Oct 2024 annually meeting, Jackson added that before they turn on BTG, first the UN/beast has to be given the power first from the 10 kings.
40:00 - 43:20
2024 Jehovah's Witnesses Annual Meeting: Everything You Need To Know - YouTube
What he did not say though is what is going to cause the nations to give their authority to the UN. Just like they made it seem that out of the blue the UN and nations were going to turn on BTG, now even though they updated the given of the power first, they now still make it seem like out of the blue they will just give their power over.
My thinking is the only thing that would cause the nations to give their power to the UN is WW3.
The UN already warns about the need for this now...
WW3 / [United Nations: Guterres warns ‘we are on the edge of an abyss’
The UN’s chief painted a grim picture of a divided and polarized world and urged solidarity among nations.…The world has never been more threatened or more divided, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres told nations of the world on Tuesday as he kicked off the 76th General Assembly session, urging all 193 member states to “wake up” and realize that solidarity is the only way out of disaster.]But they won't do it until after/during WW3 actually takes place. Then they will give their power over and that will be the time of the GT for 42 months.
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Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!
by BoogerMan init-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".
it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.
" (galatians 2:1-10).
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Duran
The WTS needs 607 to get to 1914.
They need 1914 to claim a 42-month cleansing took place during 1914-1918.
They need 1914-1918 to claim that as a result of that period of cleansing they were in line to be appointed the F&DS in 1919.
607/587/586/539/537/70 years/2,520 years/7 times/1914/1918, means nothing to the WTS other than to use/twist those dates/years in order to perpetrate the LIE that they were appointed in 1919.
The fact is the 42 months they said took place during 1914-1918 did not take place then. They have not occurred yet, still future. That means there is no basis for claiming they were appointed in 1919. Therefore, debating about 70 year/607, etc...in meaningless. No matter the truth of when those years/events took place does not change that the WTS was not appointed in 1919.
The Scriptures show that the 42 months occur during the 6th trumpet/2nd woe. Then after the 2nd woe ends, the 7th trumpet/3rd woe comes.
Like everything with the WTS, they LIE and twist what they say.
They claim the 7th trumpet/3rd woe occurred in Oct 1914.
[w02 11/1 - In 1914 the prophetic words of Revelation 11:15 were fulfilled: The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.” ]
Let's say that is true. Well then that would mean the 42 months (6th trumpet/2nd woe) would have to have occurred starting in April 1911 to Oct 1914.
But NOOO, the WTS claims the 42 months 2nd woe occurred Oct 1914-April 1918. Okay, let's say that is true. Well then that would mean the 7th trumpet/3rd woe occurred in April 1918 after the 42 months.
Believe it or not the WTS actually have said that. This is because they know the 3rd woe comes after the 2nd, and they claim the 42 months of that 2nd woe ended in 1918.
[w51 7/15 - At this eventful time the seventh angel blows his trumpet, that is, after the 1,260 days ended in 1918. Then it is that these wonders can come to pass. “And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven saying: ‘The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king for ever and ever.’]
So, which is it, did the 7th trumpet/3rd woe occur in Oct 1914 or in April 1918?
(607>>2,520 years>>>1914) - (607>>2,524 years>>>1918)
Did the 42 months/2nd woe occur in April 1911-Oct 1914 or Oct 1914-April 1918?
Or are the 42 months/2nd woe the future GT and the 3rd woe comes after those months when Jesus comes with God's kingdom, ending the kingdom of this world (Satan's)?
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Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!
by BoogerMan init-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".
it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.
" (galatians 2:1-10).
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Duran
Jeremiah is simply stating the fact that Neb took a number of Jews into exile on three different occasions during Neb's reign. Read into this what you will.
There is nothing to read from it other than:
Some Jews were in servitude to Babylon for 81 years. (618-537) Jeremiah 52:28
Some were for 70 years. (607-537) Jeremiah 52:29
Some were for 65 years. (602-537) Jeremiah 52:30
And the most the land could have been desolated-empty of its inhabitants, is for 65 years. (602-537)
So much for this statement by you:
Judah's servitude to Babylon for 70 years
its Land would also be desolated-empty of its inhabitants etc. for the exact period of 70 years
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Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!
by BoogerMan init-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".
it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.
" (galatians 2:1-10).
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Duran
Jer. 25: 11 does not clearly emphasise Babylon's supremacy. The verse clearly states the duration of Judah's servitude to Babylon for 70 years and in context with the vss. 9-11 along with Judah's servitude its Land would also be desolated-empty of its inhabitants etc. for the exact period of 70 years as confirmed by later writers of the 70 years such as Ezra and Daniel.
Well, there we have it, you are in check, because you claim that happen in 607 (Neb's 18th year) to 537. But here we read in Nebs 23rd year (602) the land was not 'desolated-empty of its inhabitants'.
[Jeremiah 52:29 In the 18th year of Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar, 832 people were taken from Jerusalem.]
[Jeremiah 52:30 In the 23rd year of Neb·u·chad·nezʹzar, Neb·uʹzar·adʹan the chief of the guard took Jews into exile, 745 people. In all, 4,600 people were taken into exile.]
So, I guess you need to change your version of the 70 years to 602-532, not 607-537.
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Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!
by BoogerMan init-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".
it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.
" (galatians 2:1-10).
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609+539=70 years
Your dating formula well summarized your nonsense.
Did you know that scholars also date the 70 years from 605 BCE and not 609 BCE?Your WTS cited 'The Babylonian Chronicle B.M. 21901', that shows in the 17th year under Babylonian king Nabopolassar, Harran fell ending the Assyria empire in 609.
They (WTS) also cited the Nabunaid Chronicle, which gives the date for the fall of Babylon in 539.
I don't care who dates what from 605, I said nothing in that last post about Jeremiah 25:11,12 and those 70 years. I simply showed based on what the WTS cited, that 609 to 539 is 70 years.
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Insight Book LIES - then tells the TRUTH!
by BoogerMan init-1 p. 493 communication - "when the circumcision issue was resolved by the governing body in jerusalem......".
it-1 p. 881 galatians, letter to the - "by reason of a revelation, paul, with barnabas and titus, went to jerusalem regarding the circumcision issue; he learned nothing new from james, peter, and john, but they recognized that he had been empowered for an apostleship to the nations.
" (galatians 2:1-10).
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scholar, how foolish can you be...
Your WTS admits that Assyria, the second world power came to its end as a result of the 14th and 17th year of Babylonian king Nabopolassar with the fall of Nineveh and then Harran. They claim that that was the start of Babylon's domination period as the third world power. They claim that Babylon came to its end when it was overthrown by Medo-Persia and that is when Medo-Persia became the fourth world power.
[Insight - The fall of the empire. The Babylonian Chronicle B.M. (British Museum) 21901 recounts the fall of Nineveh, the capital of Assyria, following a siege carried out by the combined forces of Nabopolassar, the king of Babylon, and of Cyaxares the Mede during the 14th year of Nabopolassar (612 B.C.E.)...According to the same chronicle, in the 14th year of Nabopolassar (612 B.C.E.), Ashur-uballit II attempted to continue Assyrian rule from Haran as his capital city. This chronicle states, under the 17th year of Nabopolassar (609 B.C.E.): “In the month Duʼuzu, Ashur-uballit, king of Assyria, (and) a large [army of] E[gy]pt [who had come to his aid] crossed the river (Euphrates) and [marched on] to conquer Harran.” (Ancient Near Eastern Texts, p. 305; brackets and parentheses theirs.) Actually, Ashur-uballit was trying to reconquer it after having been driven out. This record is in harmony with the account relative to the activity of Pharaoh Nechoh recorded at 2 Kings 23:29, which activity resulted in the death of King Josiah of Judah (c. 609 B.C.E.). This text states that “Pharaoh Nechoh the king of Egypt came up to the king of Assyria by the river Euphrates”—evidently to help him. “The king of Assyria” to whom Nechoh came may well have been Ashur-uballit II. Their campaign against Haran did not succeed. The Assyrian Empire had ended.]
[w65 6/1 - Babylon succeeded Assyria as the Third World Power.]
[Insight- Particularly was this domination manifest during the seventh and sixth centuries B.C.E. when Nabopolassar, a native of Chaldea, and his successors, Nebuchadnezzar II, Evil-merodach (Awil-Marduk), Neriglissar, Labashi-Marduk, Nabonidus, and Belshazzar, ruled the Third World Power, Babylon. That dynasty came to its end when “Belshazzar the Chaldean king was killed.”]
[w55 2/1 - The outstanding Absolute date for the B.C. period of the Hebrew Scriptures is that for the fall of Babylon as the capital city of the third world power at the hands of Cyrus, king of the Persians, October 13, 539 B.C., Julian calendar (or October 7 by our present Gregorian calendar), which event is referred to at Isaiah 45:1. This date is made Absolute by reason of the archaeological discovery and deciphering of the famous Nabunaid Chronicle, which itself gives a date for the fall of Babylon and which figure specialists have determined equals October 13, 539 B.C., according to the Julian calendar of the Romans.]
609 Nabopolassar 17th year - Fall of Harran
605 Nabopolassar 21st year and Nebuchadnezzar 1st year
587 Nebuchadnezzar 18th year
562 Nebuchadnezzar 43rd year
539 Belshazzar killed - end of Babylon as the 3rd world power
609+539=70 years
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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.
for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.
any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.
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Change 2: The Great Tribulation No Longer Starts with Babylon’s Fall
According to the latest interpretation, the Great Tribulation actually starts with something quite different: nations handing over their power to the United Nations.Actually, what they have recently said is correct.
They have claimed that the nations/UN turn on BTG. They said that as though just out of the blue this would happen. Now they are saying that first before the nations/UN can turn on BTG, the nations will give their power to the UN and then when empowered they will turn on BTG.
As I said, they are now correct in what they are saying. But what they fail to speak about is what would lead to the nations given their power to the UN. That event has to come first, then as a result they give their power and then as a result they together turn on BTG.
[ 13 These have one thought, so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. 16 And the ten horns that you saw and the wild beast, these will hate the prostitute and will make her devastated and naked, and they will eat up her flesh and completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.]
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The point of existence and how it refutes the Trinity
by slimboyfat inrowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?
as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.
that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.
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Scriptures state God is the alpha and the omega.
So, he is the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet?
The First and the Last of what and what?
The Beginning and the End of what and what?
That aside as it says nothing to what I said:
Apply the same explanation to how God is said to exist.
Explain how God came into existence. When you're done, then answer if that is what you claim about God existing, then maybe there is no God at all, but is the said explanation of how all things that do exist came to be?