https://youtu.be/jsmbtv4nafi?si=ezj0dnudyjls4knc.
there was a time they preached the great tribulation was a short period of time between the fall of babylon and jesus coming back to save them, now they realize there are difficult years ahead of us, watch this latest morning worship video by per christensen on this subject .
To me this a realization that the Great Tribulation is still ahead and the difficult years are to do with the famines pandemics and wars that are still to happen
WW3/pangs of distress (unknown numbers of days)>>>gives way to put in place UN /8th king (3 1/2-year GT upon all refusing to support it.)>>>Ends with Jesus coming (Armageddon)
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
How it desensitizes people and corrupts their moral perception. I try to demonstrate the superiority of reason over dogma and how an atheistic or humanist approach to life is far more enriching and, frankly, loving.
moral - concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character
loving - feeling or showing love or great care
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Are you an atheist?
If so, do you claim to know what is right and wrong and good and bad? (Does there even exist such? Who/how has determined what's, what?)
Do you know what love is?
If I was also an atheist and I thought something was right that you thought was wrong and I thought something was good that you thought was bad, who's version of good and bad, right and wrong would be correct in your way of thinking?
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
Nope!
They were Job's children, YES, but they were not children, they were adults.
It was not to settle a wager; it served as a test/example.
Had the first 10 not died when/how they did, they would still have died at some point. Job and his wife and their 10 children that they had after the first 10, are now all as dead as the 10 that died first.
What I reflect on is the fact that none of them are really dead as long as they are in the memory of the God I worship. Mark 12:27;Matthew 10:28
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
Surely Job felt much better that he had 20 new offspring. WTF about the 10 that died. No Big Deal! I have 20 more to feed!
Nope!
Even if he were to have to feed them, the fact that all his livestock/wealth doubled would mean he was in a great position to feed an addition 10.
But that is not the case.
He didn't have another 20 children in addition to the 10 that died. Unlike his livestock that doubled, the number of children he had again was also 10. Job will have all 20 of his children again when he and they are resurrected.
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
The officer could not undo for the family whatever would be done by the aggressor. Jehovah on the other hand compensated Job back all that Satan took away. Not only did he compensate him, but he doubled all that Job had.
not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.
) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".
but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.
Last days/end of the age has to do with the 1,335 days. Once WW3 begins it will go on for a limited amount of time to be the pretext to put the UN in power. Once UN/8th king is put in power, the 1,335/last days begin.
>>>WW3>1,260 days>30 days>45 days (total 1,335)
(unknown amount days for WW3, but last days begin at start of the 1,335 days)
so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?
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Therefore when Daniel 12:11 says to count 1,290 days from the "setting up" of the "disgusting thing that causes desolation" it must, be referring setting up of the United Nations in 1945
The counting does not start from 'setting up' as in creating/forming the UN, it starts from the 'putting in place' the UN.
The UN/KOTN is 'put in place' sometime during WW3 when it is given authority. At that point it becomes the 8th king. The UN could not be the 8th king upon it being started. It was a newborn in 1945.
[ 31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature.“ And they will put in place (5414.) the disgusting thing (KOTN) that causes desolation.32 “And those who act wickedly against the covenant, he will lead into apostasy by means of smooth words. But the people who know their God will prevail and act effectively. 33 And those having insight among the people will impart understanding to the many. And they will be made to stumble by sword and by flame, by captivity and by plundering, for some days.]
i would suggest:.
the short answer is yes.. the longer answer is a qualified yes, with some caveats.
the short answer is yes because jehovah’s witnesses teach that jesus is michael the archangel, their leader, eldest and most powerful, and have taught this since the very beginning of the religion.
If there was any other way to save mankind,
Save mankind from what?
an absolute necessity for our salvation
Will any who lived and died before Jesus died, will any of them be resurrected?
if you do a search on the wt website and type in "oral sex", you will get 69 results.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=oral+sex&p=par&r=occ&st=a .
why does the wt.
If you do a search on the WT website and type in "oral sex"
Why does the WT. print so much about it?
What's the deal?
Why does 'one' do a search about that to begin with?
EVERY SINGLE 'WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH...' EVER ON SEINFELD (youtube.com)
so, the organization says the “disgusting thing that causes desolation” in daniel 11:31 is the united nations being set up in 1945, but in daniel 12:11 when they interpret the 1,290 days they say it’s the league of nations in 1919. please could someone play devils advocate and tell why this could be anything but inconsistent?
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Okay, if you say so.
