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  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  I'm not sure if legitimizing is the right word. If the human brain is the source of all of our gods and related beings and worlds, that wouldn't necessarily make them real.

  Then the brain, a very physical thing with all its chemical reactions, cannot be the ultimate determiner of which metaphysical phenomena is real or not.

  The question would be, are there any that are real? How would we confirm that, if we have defined them in such a way to make it impossible to do so?

  Good questions, if the brain can't, who or what makes the ultimate decision on wether something like desire, longing, melancholy is actually real?
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  405

  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Is there any way to demonstrate metaphysical phenomena that are not the product of the physical world? After all, if the one property of the metaphysical that we can define is that it is the product of the physical world, then that would necessarily apply to all metaphysical phenomena until shown otherwise.

  This is a good question. Because now we are legitimizing all metaphysical phenomena since it comes from the physical brain. Or not.

  But if not, why? Shouldn't the brain be sufficient to legitimize all thoughts and emotions?
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  405

  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Halcon

  However, they are closely related to physical in the sense that a physical event may cause feelings of fear, anxiety, arousal etc. The 'feelings' we experience are caused by neuro-chemical reactions.

  The feelings of empathy, kindness and consideration are simply byproducts of a chemical reaction?
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  405

  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Halcon

  But love can also be an illusion if not positively evidenced.

  If not positively evidenced? How would this be done?
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  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Halcon

  All thoughts and feelings, no matter how ludicrous or misplaced, originate in the physical machinery of the mind.

  But are they physical? Tonus seems to consider them so. This despite love and hope having no physical shape, color or form.

  And can't love or fear be intensely real with zero evidence of showing it?
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  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Halcon

  Halcon, all of those originate in the brain, a physical object. I consider them physical phenomena.

  Interesting...so the simple thought of something makes that which we are thinking of physical?...
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  405

  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Halcon

  The metaphysical does not have the same legitimacy as the physical. The latter is undeniable. The former is as yet only a concept. Without actual evidence, that will not change.

  Do love, fear and hate...hope and dread ...fall under the category of 'physical' or 'metaphysical'?
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  Is the Watchtower Ultimately a Creation of Fallen Angels?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a watchtower in ceremonial magical tradition is a tutelary spirit of one of the four cardinal points or quarters (east, south, west and north).

  in many magical traditions, they are understood to be enochian angels... originating with the enochian tradition of john dee, a version of it was popularized by the hermetic order of the golden dawn, which became hugely influential in modern western esotericism, including wicca.

  the watchtowers are invoked during the ritual of casting a magic circle.. .

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  Halcon

  While magic, demons , the devil, etc are all very real, the religion of JWs are not devil worshipers. All Christian religions, including JWs, acknowledge and actively delineate the 'devil' ad nauseum... whereas the true occult religion vehemently denies the existence of God. There is no in between.
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

  1. social
  2. current

  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  Halcon

  Anony, it means the Biden camp and media are trying to gaslight everyone again. This 'clarification' was reported by CNN this morning. CNN also had a panel saying Biden stuttered when he said Trump's supporters are garbage and that we misunderstood what he said.

  I'm all for the Left trying to keep explaining away what Biden meant, their hole just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

  1. social
  2. current

  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  Halcon

  Biden's camp has 'clarified' what he actually said tho... spokesperson stated that 'Biden put an apostrophe after the word supporters'.