Halcon

Joined

• started 7 topics
• posted 420 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Halcon

• 
  127

  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  WTS does NOT recognized baptisms of other religions.

  Yes, this is clear. It seems both JW and Catholic church don't recognize each other's baptism over interpretation of scripture. Ultimately both claim the spirit directs them to their each conclusion. Maybe they're just both valid. After all, neither invokes satan or belzebub in their baptism ritual.

  Why would anyone care what the Catholic church thinks about another religion?

  It does appear that the Catholic church holds more authority and weight on the basis of its history and tradition across millenia (than JW). It's difficult to ascertain and judge any Christian religion if it isn't against or in contrast to the earliest one.
• 
  127

  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  Yes indeed, looks like we have a new Pope.

  Thank you Blondie for expanding on that subject of the baptism. Based on that last note you referenced, it does still appear to be that JW acknowledges at least 'the role' of the Holy Spirit.

  A quick and superficial Google search on the subject indicates that the catholic church seems to not recognize the JW baptism on the basis of the Trinity doctrine.
• 
  127

  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  Matthew 28:19 does say this in the King James Version (and the RNWT) "Matthew 28:19 in the King James Version reads: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" RNWT: Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit.

  A JW by means of this verse could say that it is implied that a JW baptism is being performed in the name of all three. Does it teach something different tho?
• 
  24

  Question for JW's: Is Jesus the Mediator of Your Prayers ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  praying to god “through the son jesus” has nothing to do with christ as mediator.. do jw's even know what a mediator does?.

  i am in the insurance restoration construction business and have been in mediation many times when a policy holder sues an insurance company for not paying everything they believe is due them under the terms of their policy for property damage.. i am brought in as a technical expert.. in mediation, the plaintiff (policy holder) and the defendant (insurance company) are placed in separate rooms, they do not talk to each other.

  they are separated because the dispute has alienated the one from the other.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  This agreement “for the forgiveness of sins” is rejected by 20 million people each year during the Watchtower Satanic version of the Lord’s supper.

  Im assuming this is when JWs refrain from consuming the bread and wine?
• 
  54

  1975 !

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many of you here remember 1975?

  i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.

  those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  Also, what were JWs doing on December 31st? Were they camping out at the kingdom hall, at groups at home?
• 
  54

  1975 !

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many of you here remember 1975?

  i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.

  those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  Anyone care to describe in more detail what was happening as 1975 turned into 1976 for JW? Those first few weeks of 1976 for example. It seems that they couldn't just discard 1975 all that quickly?
• 
  127

  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  TTWSYF -Worth mentioning that the Catholic Church does recognize most other protestant denominations baptisms, but they do not accept the JW baptism as legitimate.

  Wondering if this means that the catholic church doesn't believe JWs can attain salvation?
• 
  127

  What does the Catholic church think of JW?

  by Halcon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on a trip to rome a few years ago i asked my friend (who is roman and jw) what the catholic faith thinks of jw.

  he simply stated that jw is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  is there an official stance on jw by the catholics?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  On a trip to Rome a few years ago I asked my friend (who is Roman and JW) what the Catholic faith thinks of JW. He simply stated that JW is tolerated by the church but that really not much thought is given to them.

  Is there an official stance on JW by the catholics? As I understand it, JW is not really considered protestant per se, altho I'm not sure what else they could be.
• 
  18

  Why worship a God that does not help!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so god let 10 million people die in world war 2 but was too busy to help....what kind of diety does this!

  if i was god i would have done something .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  But 'man (men)' nonetheless?
• 
  18

  Why worship a God that does not help!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so god let 10 million people die in world war 2 but was too busy to help....what kind of diety does this!

  if i was god i would have done something .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Halcon

  And like all gods, does not exist, and never has, all gods were made up by men.

  In other words, man is God?