Tonus -So we ignore the actions that contradict the definition and only consider the ones that don't? That gives us an incomplete understanding of who god is, doesn't it?
Are we talking about man's definition of God again?
Halcon
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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Touchofgrey-Can you please provide independently verified evidence that these things actually happen
Many Republicans continue to ask the same thing regarding Biden's 2020 election win.
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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Liam-About the little girl, He also said Plainly; “Stop weeping, for she did not die but is sleeping.
This was Liam's original issue. If the little girl was only sleeping according to Jesus, did he resurrect her or not? Liam implied that Jesus lied.
But Jesus also said that a man that simply looks at a woman lustfully had committed adultery with her. He also said that hating your brother was the same as murdering him.
But if there is no physical murder, or sex as in the other case then was Jesus lying here too?
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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Duran -Why do parents (man/woman) make the 'choice' to bring children into a world full of 'suffering'? Is that a LOVING thing to do?
I suspect human parents have varied reasons for planning and having a child. But if statistics and Elon musk are to be believed, less and less children are being born. And couples cite correctly because it's become financially unsustainable. Not to mention what you pointed out, that this world does indeed seem to be going to crap. And it isn't just the standard 'wars and famine'. There's a psychological breakdown that is becoming more prevalent. It would take a lot to convince me to intentionally bring a child into this world right now.
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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Duran- There is no confusing the two on my part
Yet you compared a man that brings a child into this world of suffering...with God.
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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Liam-So who do we believe? Jesus to tell the truth, or the People who said she had died?
If we believe Jesus tells the truth, then The Girl was not dead because Jesus said so.
The people who said she had died were all lying because of ignorance.
That means Jesus DID NOT RESURRECT THE LITTLE GIRL.
Jesus also said that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery in his heart.
Did it matter if that man actually had physical sex with the woman?
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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Duran-Anybody who chooses to have children knowing that they are brought into a world where they WILL suffer... well I guess you could say they are no better or worse than God in that regard.
The common mistake of confusing God with man, as you did above. You are correct tho, you were powerless in coming into existence, whereas God was powerful for bringing you into it.
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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The confusion comes from trying to square that circle. God's actions are not the actions of someone who is loving, compassionate, merciful, and so on.
Yet the scriptures state Jesus healed a man's useless hand, healed a crippled's legs so he could walk again... restored the eyesight of another....raised a little girl from the dead who's father had become inconsolable...
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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God's own definition of himself does not seem to change the problem, because his actions don't align with someone who is compassionate, gracious, slow to anger, loving, faithful, and so on.
On the contrary, God's very explicit self definition solves the problem of what exactly he is capable of doing minus the confusion caused by man.
You can either choose everlasting reward, or everlasting punishment. The choice is ours.
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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
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This would be consistent, if he was defined as a sadist. But he is defined as moral, merciful, good, kind, loving, and so on. He is defined as wishing for all to be saved and enjoy eternal bliss. This definition is in direct contrast with the actions he is purported to have taken and the universe he is believed to have designed. That does not make sense.
But how does God define himself?
And he passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, “The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, 7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.”
The last part of verse 7, from Exodus, describes God as being very decisive and intentional in executing punishment.
Maybe the issue is man's defining of God, and not God's own definition of himself.