Actually Jesus never stated any of these things. Christianity often attributes such things to God, but Jesus never explicitly said any such things in any of the Gospels.
Are you sure Kaleb?
"He who has seen me has seen the Father"
Halcon
JoinedPosts by Halcon
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
Kaleb doesn't exist either. He's just a name randomly picked out from a box mixed with AI responses cut and pasted at will.
He most certainly exists. He's engaged our thoughts and even our emotions. I've seen people get pretty wound up with Kaleb here 🙂, if that isn't real....
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
If some random person that I never met is telling me the Sun Rotates around the earth, How in the world is he going to be able to teach me What God is like and what he requires of us.
See, you did imply Jesus was lying hehe.
But what you stated above is due to the same common mistake we've been discussing. You equated God with limited man. You know man, based on your own comment above, is usually wrong about things and can't be trusted.
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
Tonus -We can go with god's self-descriptions, which seems to me to be the best approach. Who is this god? He is jealous. He is vengeful. He is given to anger, and that anger leads to precipitate action.
Once again you didn't finish the list. He is also loving, patient, peaceful, considerate, even compassionate according to Christ.
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
Kaleb-In other words, the meaning of the narrative is not "this is God's self definition," as we were once taught by Watchtower, but that what it means to be divine is often found in what it means to be human.
On the contrary, it could be well argued that the Watchtower is just as responsible for the confusion someone like Tonus experiences regarding who God truly is for believers.
People like Tonus cannot fathom that God is both capable of giving punishment and giving reward. People like this perhaps once thought that God was a big teddy bear, yet that is not how the scriptures have ever defined him. If not the scriptures, then it falls on man for having caused this confusion.
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
I am talking about what god's actions --as depicted in his holy book-- say about him, and am willing to use both god's and man's definitions as a basis of comparison.
It would help if you stuck to God's self definition. All confusion would disappear.
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
Liam-The resurrection is a big thing to them, but three resurrections is not enough to prove anything. Worse is two resurrections, especially when Jesus admits the girl was not dead which now makes it to two resurrections.
One resurrection performed by Christ would suffice for believers. 100 resurrections wouldn't be enough for non-believers.
I'm trying to show how it all falls apart when examined carefully.
Look carefully then, and see how Christ described the little girl, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as all being alive.
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
It appears Jesus had a problem explaining his views to others.
Suddenly not everything Jesus said was true?
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
Liam-The crowd kept saying; "The girl is Dead" ...........Jesus kept saying NO SHE IS SLEEPING.Who lied, The crowd or Jesus?...........The Crowd lied.
Good, if you accept the words of Jesus as truth then you will also find his statement here just as true-
31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you,
32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’ ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.
It appears that neither Abraham, Isaac nor Jacob died either.
-
129
Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!
by liam inwe get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?
that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.
-
-
Halcon
Tonus -So we ignore the actions that contradict the definition and only consider the ones that don't? That gives us an incomplete understanding of who god is, doesn't it?
Are we talking about man's definition of God again?