Halcon

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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

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  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  I said, I am judging him by his actions and by his words.

  And so, would you choose sides with him?
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  Tonus -Many abusive people are also capable of kindness and compassion.

  You say you are not confusing God with man but this was your most recent statement above when explaining your thoughts on God.
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  The possibility that he is irrational, violent, and unpredictable should. Many abusive people are also capable of kindness and compassion. It is not those moments that worry their victims.

  You're confusing God with man again.
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  Kaleb -John 14:9 does not outright state that God "is" this, that, or the other. Like other Jewish rabbis, Jesus did not tend to describe God in the sense of literal attributes. That came from the apostolic college and the Church Fathers.

  It's not necessary for us to 'reinvent the wheel.' Don't forget, Jesus specifically referenced the words of Isaiah at the synagogue. But fine, we'll stick to the old testament.
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  Actually Jesus never stated any of these things. Christianity often attributes such things to God, but Jesus never explicitly said any such things in any of the Gospels.

  Are you sure Kaleb?

  "He who has seen me has seen the Father"
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  Kaleb doesn't exist either. He's just a name randomly picked out from a box mixed with AI responses cut and pasted at will.

  He most certainly exists. He's engaged our thoughts and even our emotions. I've seen people get pretty wound up with Kaleb here 🙂, if that isn't real....
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  If some random person that I never met is telling me the Sun Rotates around the earth, How in the world is he going to be able to teach me What God is like and what he requires of us.

  See, you did imply Jesus was lying hehe.

  But what you stated above is due to the same common mistake we've been discussing. You equated God with limited man. You know man, based on your own comment above, is usually wrong about things and can't be trusted.
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Tonus -We can go with god's self-descriptions, which seems to me to be the best approach. Who is this god? He is jealous. He is vengeful. He is given to anger, and that anger leads to precipitate action.

  Once again you didn't finish the list. He is also loving, patient, peaceful, considerate, even compassionate according to Christ.
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  Kaleb-In other words, the meaning of the narrative is not "this is God's self definition," as we were once taught by Watchtower, but that what it means to be divine is often found in what it means to be human.

  On the contrary, it could be well argued that the Watchtower is just as responsible for the confusion someone like Tonus experiences regarding who God truly is for believers.

  People like Tonus cannot fathom that God is both capable of giving punishment and giving reward. People like this perhaps once thought that God was a big teddy bear, yet that is not how the scriptures have ever defined him. If not the scriptures, then it falls on man for having caused this confusion.
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  Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

  that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

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  Halcon

  I am talking about what god's actions --as depicted in his holy book-- say about him, and am willing to use both god's and man's definitions as a basis of comparison.

  It would help if you stuck to God's self definition. All confusion would disappear.