Civil unrest was many times worse in the 1960's. We worked through it.
Posts by TD
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40Gorby's question about current US situation
by Gorbatchov infrom the peacefull netherlands i have a question about the current situation in the us.. is a civil war possible?.
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Why is this an APOSTATE site?!?
by LaraK ini made a big mistake when signing up at this supposed website for jehovah's witnesses.
after reading some things on this site it has become apparent to me that this site is nothing put another pathetic site for apostates: people who betrayed jehovah, left the truth, and are so bitter about their experiene in the truth, and they are angry just like satan because they know they will very soon be dead at jehovah's hand!.
this website should be renamed something more fitting like "satan's playground" or a similar name that would get across the message of your site.. sincerely,.
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Blast from the past. I wonder where Lara is today....
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In 2020 In Your Country or State Are Race Relations Better or Worse Than Before?
by minimus inarchie bunker from all in the family was considered by many as a racist.
there are still many people who think and act like him.
of course, in today’s world, there are many extremes.
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TD
You would like to think this is just Hollywood’s portrayal of the racial divide many decades ago.
Some of us are old enough to remember Price and Rainey smirking in court....
The attitude at the time was not unique.
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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TD or Cofty can you explain the difference please....I still don’t get it
Since you included me in the question, I'll add my two cents as well
The question of whether Christ died for you or whether he died in place of you is an old one that goes back to the split between the Eastern and Western churches.
Those that advocate the former believe that the Ransom effects forgiveness of sins here and now. Those that advocate the latter believe that Christ's sacrifice simply balances the scales by restoring that which Adam lost but that your sinful state remains.
Barbour clearly fell into the second camp. He believed that Christ's sacrifice erased the effects of Adam's transgression, but found it monstrous that one creature should suffer for the sins of another:
"Let me illustrate: My son is a very wicked boy, he deserves severe chastisement, but I shrewdly hit upon a plan of substitution; I say to my boy, or to one of the servants, when James bites his sister, you catch a fly, stick a pin through its body and impale it to the wall and I'll forgive James."
"But are you not running foul of Scripture in opposing the doctrine of substitution? No I answer, a thousand times NO. "The soul that sinneth, it shall die." "And death has passed upon all, in that all have sinned." And in the judgement every man is rewarded for every deed, whether it be good or whether it be evil. This, none can deny." (Herald of the Morning, August 1878 p. 26)
The irony here is that although Jehovah's Witnesses accuse Barbour of rejecting the ransom, they essentially agree with his viewpoint. They believe that Christ simply removed the death penalty that was hanging over your head, but that your sinful state remains.
Russell's rebuttal appeared the very next month:
"And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years and Adam died." Here was the execution of the penalty on Adam himself; hence Christ did not die instead of Adam for Adam himself died.
A physician prescribes a remedy for you and yet he does not do it instead of you. And it is in this sense Christ died for us, the just for the unjust. He is the great Physician, the restorer of all things. And thus he buys the right to regenerate mankind by ransoming them from the grave."
"I believe it is possible for a man to live without sin, but only by the grace of God. It is not forgiveness, since the natural man can be forgiven; but it is the free gift of God that is, the implanting in him of a new nature." (Herald of the Morning September 1878 pp. 40 & 42)
This is again ironic because Russell's views on grace and being born anew are far more mainstream than what Jehovah's Witnesses teach today.
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Do as we SAY, but not as we DO!
by BoogerMan in"it's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled.
it's not just jw's who blindly follow their leaders.
it's horrifying to see how easily mass-hysteria has been instilled in a nation.
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Seasonal influenza typically kills more people annually than Cholera, Diphtheria, Tetanus and Malaria combined because we have taken and continue to take extraordinary measures to contain and treat these much more lethal diseases.
Misusing / Misunderstanding this statistic invites the label, conspiracy theorist.
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How did Adam know what a sword was?
by phoenixrising inso if the bible is the inspired word of god and i don't believe it is by any stretch, how did adam when he was kicked out of the garden of eden know what a spinning sword was?
did adam invent swords?
more bible non sense garbage.
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TD
I throw in the suggestion that the angels had merch that Moses would later identify as a sword.
I think regressing into generic terms is simply equivocation.
There are all sorts of passive ways a supreme being could have prevented egress into the garden.
In the story, however, he uses the threat of deadly force via an instrument of some sort.
It really doesn't matter what the instrument was, as we've already satisfied the basic definition of a weapon.
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The ransom makes no sense
by BourneIdentity inif mankind needed to be redeemed from sin and death, why didn't the redemption happen as soon as jesus successfully lived his entire life without sin and sacrificed his life?
if he was successful, the price was paid and we'd all be living forever.
it's all bullshit, or jesus fucked up and sinned, so it nullified his sacrifice.
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It's ironic that the JW's still claim that Barbour rejected the ransom given the fact that they are far closer to his view today than they are to Russell's
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How did Adam know what a sword was?
by phoenixrising inso if the bible is the inspired word of god and i don't believe it is by any stretch, how did adam when he was kicked out of the garden of eden know what a spinning sword was?
did adam invent swords?
more bible non sense garbage.
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What is a sword if not a cutting instrument adapted for use as a weapon?
The problem is not the terminology. The problem is the introduction of the concept of weapons to humans.
Was passiert ist absehbar...
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Possibly new vaccine can be ready by September this year
by newsheep injust saw this on the news tonight.
england has come up with a covid vaccine at the oxford university.
india wants to start using it in a couple of months.
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Imagine if they were this diligent in trying to find vaccines for HIV...
An HIV vaccine is a horse of a different color altogether (Because it is a retro virus that stores a copy of itself in your T cells themselves.)
At any rate Moderna has successfully tested a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19)
The first run was only on a few people. The next will be on a few hundred. If all goes well, we could have a vaccine by the first half of next year.
Press release:
News story:
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Covid 19 Mortality Rates Calculated from CDC Data by Professional Data Analyst
by Sea Breeze instudent (age 6-18) deaths from covid-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 0.0001% as a percentage of their peers.
they died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of 0.0005% in 2018.. workforce (age 19-55) deaths from covid-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of .01% as a percentage of their peers.
they died from influenza-involved illnesses at a rate of .007% in 2018.. retired (age 66-77) deaths from covid-19-involved illnesses are projected at a rate of 1% as a percentage of their peers.
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TD
My comment was directed at the OP.