the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
They could have just stuck with the 1995 definition of “wicked generation”—at least that made some sort of sense.
It struck me as a nonsensical tautology:
"The wicked generation who takes no note of the sign will not be destroyed at the end until the entire sign of the end (of which they take no note) has occurred."
there was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
I don't think so without a revised eschatology.
The 1975 date had a very different foundation than the 1925 date, for example
To set a new date based on the same framework trumpets the previous failure.
i hear this from the leftist idiots all the time.
if someone breaks into your home 6 bullets are enough.
well if its a one of i would argue that i still my need more round for even just one person.
I have both but recommend an AR15. The 5.56 is easy to shoot.
Maintenance of an AR family rifle is a little over the head of the average shooter in my experience.
--But then maybe my experience has just been with technically illiterate people
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
Yes.
People pick up terms like that from the media instead of textbooks and the resultant argument is not about the textbook explanation at all.
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
MMM
So initially you said that white people are defensive around the term “white privilege” because we just don’t quite understand it, or use the term correctly.
No quite.
I said "99 out of 100 people" which includes everybody. regardless of color.
White people naturally become defensive when the term is misused and rightly so.
White males actually get a double whammy via the term "Male privilege" which is often misused in the exact same fashion.
In both instances, it is a misunderstanding of the concept to apply it to an individual that you don't know via the claim that they are "privileged."
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
Is this not a 'God-of-the-gaps' argument? Poor logic.
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"God of the gaps" is the assumption, usually by creationists, of a supernatural cause for that which science can't currently explain. I'm pretty good at formal logic, but don't follow yours.
Perhaps instead of saying "You know it when you see it" I should have said, "You know it when you experience it."
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
Simon
I'm not debating what vestiges of the phenomenon still exist today.
If you want examples of restaurants that didn't want your money if you were black as part of a general discussion I can give them because one actually went to the Supreme Court.
But as I've said, social privilege (Or the lack thereof) is entirely dependent upon where you are and who you're around and the only person who can truly judge whether you've ever benefited from it personally is you yourself.
The automatic assumption that a person is privileged because he or she is white is frankly very irritating.
As far as Floyd is concerned, I'm not aware of anybody in any official capacity who maintains that Chauvin is blameless at this point.
Regardless of whether the cause of death was "Cardiopulmonary Arrest Complicating Law Enforcement Subdual, Restraint, and Neck Compression" as Baker reported or "Asphyxiation From Sustained Pressure" as Wilson and Baden reported, the ultimate conclusion of both examinations was homicide.
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
MMM
That doesn’t sound like “privilege”, it sounds like “preference”.
When the preference is strong enough that it affects hiring decisions, whether you're even welcome in the restaurant at all, whether people think it's safe to have you living on the same street, the perceptions of a jury, etc. it does translate into an advantage, privilege, asset or whatever we want to call it.
Do you honestly think that black people would not also express an “immediate acceptance” for other blacks?
You're familiar with Washington DC, right? Why do you think a white boy like me couldn't get served in that particular restaurant?
Would you call that “black privilege”? Don’t you think those blacks might share something more than skin color?
People are people and they all have preferences. A great many people (apparently) don't seem to understand when the preference crosses the line into a prejudice.
There was a recent article in Scientific American, authored by twelve medical professionals which explained how initial reports of George Floyd's autopsy misused medical terms to make the police appear less culpable.
Look at how many people not only bought into it, but embellished it further, to the point where it morphed into the claim that Floyd was in a drug fueled rage which left the police no choice.
I'm not saying this was necessarily racial prejudice, as there are people who will reflexively defend the police no matter what they do. But either way, it is still food for thought.
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
MMM
So, after the fallout, what is “white privilege”? Can it be clearly defined?
It can't be clearly defined, but you do know it when you see it.
Ten years ago, I was self employed as a tech consultant and ended up spending 3 weeks in Texarkana. Nice place, if you don't mind the heat of Arizona coupled with the humidity of Louisiana
The people were very friendly too. They would come right up to my table as I was eating and say," Hello. I'm Billy Bob Walker and I don't think I've seen you around these parts. Where y'all from?"
And Billy Bob would visibly relax when I said "Arizona" which was a confederate state.
That's privilege. --Immediate acceptance into the social group based on skin color and geographic origin.
I'm not saying I would have been beaten up if I was a man of color, but these guys sure as hell wouldn't have pulled up chairs and tossed down beers with me.
But as I said, social privilege is a relative thing that depends entirely upon the perceptions of the people around you.
Around the same time, I was completely ignored at a restaurant in Georgetown, which is where I grew up. --Left after 45 minutes of inattention. "White privilege" didn't amount to diddly squat.
lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
Wow. All I can say reading all of the posts on these threads is, wow.
Since you said you've read all the posts, I'll point out that I've acknowledge the social phenomenon, but believe that 99 out of 100 people who use the term don't actually understand it and misapply it.
--Which is exactly why it elicits feelings of defensiveness among white people.
