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  Has the Watchtower ever admitted in writing that blood transfusions could save a person's physical life?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  hae anyone come across a quotation to that effect?.

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  It's implicit in the acknowledgement that refusing transfusion could cost you your life.

  They actually glorified that idea in the infamous May 22nd 1994 Awake!

  (The one with the pictures of the JW children who apparently have died)
  
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  I just turned 75 and here is a giant steaming pile of my "Wisdumb"

  by Terry in

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  birthday wisdom magnum opus.

  i was born 2 years after the end of wwii.. everything was in black and white.. harry truman was president.. mahatma gandhi was the spiritual leader of india.. .

  by the time i was 5, a new-fangled invention called television.

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  Happy birthday, Terry!

  Here's to many more!

  
  
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

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  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  With all due respect. You haven't explained anything.

  Sure I have

  #1 I've explained the actual mechanism of seeing into the past. --That it is purely a function of speed and distance.

  When we look at our sun, we are looking about 8 minutes into the past. When we look at Proxima Centauri, we're looking about 4.24 years into the past. When we look at Sirius, we're looking about 8.6 years into the past.

  It's about 11.4 years for Procyon A and about 260 years for the Spica binary and about 6197 years for Cygnus X1 and about 775,000 years for ULAS J0744+25.

  When we look at the Andromeda galaxy, we're looking about 2.54 million years into the past. When we look at the Southern Pinwheel, we're looking about 15 million years into the past.

  It's about 23.16 million miles for the Whirlpool galaxy and about 31 million years for the Sombrero Galaxy and about 52 million years for the Eye of Sauron.

  #2 I've explained that this is a limitation inasmuch as it is entirely dependent on how far away any given object is . Non-technical writers are waxing poetic about the JWST being a "time machine" as if it's going to give us a panoramic view of the entire cosmos in its early stages, which is very, very misleading.
  

  #3 I've explained that if we want to look farther back in time, then we need to look at objects that are farther away from us.

  #4 I've explained the Hubble- Lemaître Law, which is that galaxies are moving away from Earth at speeds proportional to their distance. Or to look at it another way, the galaxies that are farthest away from us are the ones that are moving the fastest.

  #5 I've explained the Doppler effect vis-à-vis the speed and distance of those galaxies. --That the extreme speed coupled with the expansion of the universe has stretched the wavelength of the visible light into lower frequencies. --Hence the need for an infrared telescope.
  

  #6 I've explained that since light is the medium here, then we are limited to bright objects. (i.e. Stars and galaxies)

  NASA expects to "see" the universe as it was 100 million years ago or so with this new telescope..

  This sounds a lot like the "time machine" notion of what the JWST is capable of. (i.e. --That it's going to give us a panoramic view of the early cosmos, complete with diaphanous hydrogen and planetary nebulae.
  

  You've linked to a number of NASA articles now and every single one of them has said exactly what I've been saying, which is that the JWST is going to show us the first bright objects in the universe, which are the stars and galaxies farthest away from us.

  Staring with my first post on your thread I've also said very clearly that red shift is the mechanism of observing the earliest objects in the universe which is why (For the second time now) the JWST has been designed from the ground up as an infrared telescope.

  --And these have been your responses:
  

  "BTW, red-shift won't prevent the "time-machine" from functioning according to NASA."

  "You should contact NASA right away and let them know about your theory about how Red Shift will prohibit them from observing galaxies being formed."

  "Your references to red-shift cannot change this fact."

  "If you think what NASA is trying to do is impossible because of red-shift, you should call them right away and explain it to them so they can stop misleading the public all over the internet right now."

  Either I'm the world's worst communicator or you've got some serious reading comprehension problems. Or maybe astronomy is just not your thing.
  

  Either way, there is a huge disconnect here.
  

  
  
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  I think Freddy was a closet sci-fi nerd.

  The whole heart and brain / emotion and logic thing they trotted out in the early 70's was eerily similar to the Spock character in the series Star Trek, which had aired just a few years prior.
  
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  You should contact NASA right away and let them know about your theory about how Red Shift will prohibit them from observing galaxies being formed

  Red shift is the mechanism which enables the observation of objects in the very distant past. The JWST is an infrared telescope for exactly that reason.

  Look, I've made an honest effort to explain myself here.
  

  Perhaps you could reciprocate? Perhaps you could flesh out the OP with a description of what you think the JWST "should" see which would confirm the big bang theory if it were true.

  I don't know what you mean by "big mess."
  
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  Maybe I didn't explain very clearly. Let me give it another go.

  Our sun is roughly 93 million miles away. The speed of light is roughly 186,282 miles a second. Therefore when we observe our sun we are actually looking roughly 8 minutes into the past.

  The farther away a source of light is, the farther back into the past we're looking.

  The farthest galaxies from us are the ones that are moving away the fastest. (Hubble/Lemaître's law)

  They're receding so fast that the wavelength of the light is "stretched" out of the visible spectrum and into the infrared.

  That's red shift. Observing it is the mechanism of seeing some of the earliest objects in the history of our universe. The infrared light reaching us today was produced billions of years ago as visible light.

  But it doesn't work without light. The JWST is not going to be able to see anything prior to earliest stars and galaxies. The earliest stars are theorized to be non- metallic and shorter lived and it would be cool if that could be observed, but they're not going to look much different than what we see today.

  So the prediction in your OP is actually a pretty safe bet.
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  Given the fact that the mechanism of "seeing" into the past is via the extreme red shift of the most distant galaxies, I'd say that's probably a pretty safe bet.

  I'm not trying to be facetious here. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by a big mess.
  

  
  
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  Why it takes a long time to bring a religious cult down.

  by pistolpete in

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  i think the first thing to consider is that it takes a while for humans to wake up to the truth.

  this is not just a jw thing.

  around 1600 ad, galileo challenged the catholic church's long held view that the earth was the center of our universe.

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  I'm a little more pessimistic, I guess
  

  In 1995 the "Generation" was redefined to be the "wicked" who take no note of the sign of the end

  In 2008 the "Generation" was redefined to be the "Anointed" which was nearly a 180 degree about-face.

  In 2010 the "Generation" was redefined to be overlapping generations of the "Anointed" since 1914.

  It would be nice if the average JW understood that four (Counting 1942) understandings of a pivotal scripture in less than twenty years is not "new light." It's incompetence and ineptitude on the part of the leadership.

  It would be nice if the average JW understood the anachronism in the leadership's abandonment of typology vis-à-vis the Olivet.
  

  It would be nice if the average JW understood the semantic legerdemain at work in these explanations.

  Hell, it would be nice if the average JW even understood that there were in fact four separate explanations.
  

  I'm about the same age as your uncle, Pete, and I watched my own relatives become disillusioned later in life. One of them was actually quite high in the JW hierarchy. It made no difference.
  

  Don't misunderstand though. I really hope you're right. Maybe the "escaped mouse syndrome" of the pandemic (i.e. A perfectly tame mouse will become wild very quickly outside of his cage.) will push things over the edge this time.
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  I think the Jw Religion is getting better. Not by choice.

  by pistolpete in

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  one of my jw family member had a big get together.

  he invited a lot of his jw friends.

  there was teenage kids, couples, singles.

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  Interesting.

  I've noticed that JW's who are active on Facebook and Instagram seem to be fairly normal these days, but I just assumed it was because they were more laid back to begin with.

  I didn't realize it was more than that.
  
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  R movies

  by road to nowhere in

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  witnesses never watch r movies.

  but they understand references to wood chippers and banjo music.. other than that the rating system is not worldwide .

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  Movie ratings have never made a lot of sense to me.

  The Andromeda Strain (1971) is rated 'G' despite scenes of mass death and suicide including a deceased young woman, naked to her waist on the floor and an elderly woman who has hung herself in a stairwell and is gently swinging in the breeze.

  Paprika (2006) an animated adaptation of Yasutaka Tsutsui's book by the same name is rated 'R' for god knows why. Some of the scenes are surreal, there is an implied sexuality here and there and a very brief scene of androgynous nudity (i.e. The figure has no genitalia)

  I'm not sure how one could make a value judgment about a movie based on such an arbitrary system.

  To be fair, both Fargo and Deliverance are like The Exorcist in the sense that the references in pop culture are everywhere.