i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
My understanding (perhaps wrong) is that JW's do not recognize multiple 70 year periods.
They date the fall of Babylon to the autumn of 539 and the decree permitting the Jews to return to Jerusalem to Cyrus' first regnal year. To this, they add a period of approximately 4 months for the Jews to make their journey and it is at this point (i.e. Two years later, in the autumn of 537) when the 70 years actually ends.
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
Scholar
Another word for gobblydook
Not at all. Some of the criticisms of the NWT are weak inasmuch the renderings in question still fall within standard definitions and rules of grammar, even if they do offend the biased views of others. Surely you're aware of this?
With the foregoing in mind, you've argued for a preferential rendering not simply as one of multiple ways the passage could be understood, but as the correct understanding. You've done so on grammatical grounds without actually framing an argument to that effect.
I haven't said you are wrong here. I'm just curious. I'd kinda like to hear the grammatical argument, if there is one.
entschuldigt bitte, wenn ich in deutsch schreibe.. würde ich es „übersetzten“ käme es zu missverständnissen.. ich hätte ein paar rückfragen in verbindung mit der kündigung von anthony morris iii..
) anthony morris iii protzte, vor der kamera, in seiner zeit als mitglied des inneren ordens der wachtturmgesellschaft, immer mit seiner rolex (die seine frau, aus dem spendenshop von einem nachlass eines verstorbenen bruders abgriff) und den goldenen protzringen (die er ebenfalls, als erster, in der spendenshop hierarchie, geierte).. wenn er in seinen vorträgen damit prahlte, das seine eltern wohlhabend waren, stimmt das so lange, solange er auf kosten der brüder lebte.
als er in den kreisdienst wechselte, verkaufte er sein, durch die militärhypothek finanziertes, haus und zog in eine kreisaufseher-wohnung.
Ein paar Antworten...
1.
a.) Gibt es in Amerika noch Menschen, die in Wohnwagen leben?
Ja. Es ist nicht ungewöhnlich, dass ein Rentnerehepaar sein Haus verkauft und in einem Wohnwagen lebt. Einige sind hübsch eingerichtet
b.) Wieviel kostet es mich, wenn ich in Amerika einen solchen Wohnwagen kaufen wollte?
Etwa 40.000 bis 200.000 US-Dollar
c.) Wieviel kostet die Miete für einen solchen Stellplatz?
Ich weiß es leider nicht
d.) Woher kommen der Strom, das Wasser und die Telefon-/Internetverbindung?
Sie können einen Stellplatz in einem Wohnwagenpark mieten. Es gibt Anschlüsse für Strom, Wasser und Abwasser und Sie bezahlen die Stadt
e.) Wieviel kostet der Strom das Wasser und das Telefon etwa monatlich?
Es hängt davon ab, wo Sie leben. Das Heizen und Kühlen eines Wohnwagens kann teurer sein als ein Haus.
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2.
a.) Gibt es in Amerika noch den Job des Einkauftütenpackens im Supermarkt?
Ja, obwohl es in ländlichen Gebieten häufiger vorkommt
b.) Gibt es in Amerika noch diese billigen Plastiktüten, in denen früher der Einkauf eingepackt wurde.
Ja
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3.
a.) Wird in Amerika für die Betheliten Gelder in eine staatliche Rentenkasse eingezahlt?
Ich weiß nicht
b.) Beziehen Betheliten die in Amerika sind, ab dem Erreichen des Rentenalters, Rente?
Keine Ahnung
c.) Gibt es in Amerika eine Sozialhilfe, die ein Lebens-mindest-Minimum ermöglicht?
Es gibt ein Sozialversicherungssystem, in das man aber in jungen Jahren einzahlen muss. (Es ist kompliziert)
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Ich fürchte, ich kenne die Antworten auf den Rest Ihrer Fragen nicht
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
The said scholar is big on grammar and he has read the verses grammatically in line with sound exegesis.
I'd kinda like to hear a grammatical argument if such can be framed.
Assuming a preferred understanding is the only grammatically possible understanding is exactly how critics of the NWT get themselves into trouble.
the jws i know (which admittedly are more liberal than most) are suddenly into prepping to one degree or another.
some have simply assembled "go bags" with basic common sense supplies in case they need to bug out in the event of a natural disaster and others seem to be seriously into it, almost to the degree to which mormons are.
backup generators and a year's supply of food and water).
The JWs I know (which admittedly are more liberal than most) are suddenly into prepping to one degree or another. Some have simply assembled "go bags" with basic common sense supplies in case they need to bug out in the event of a natural disaster and others seem to be seriously into it, almost to the degree to which Mormons are. (e.g. Backup generators and a year's supply of food and water)
I'm wondering if this is just a regional, isolated thing or if it comes from higher up in the JW leadership?
This is not a criticism. (Far from it.)
over-all how would you view your life on this planet so far ?
fair , good , satisfactory ,not so good ,terrible.,?.
let me explain if i can ,i didn`t become a jw until my very late teens 19 and more likely close to 20. .
No complaints, other than time slipping away much too quickly.
Best wishes to everyone.
why can jw's give blood samples for testing in a medical setting?
i was with someone once (non jw related) who was getting multiple tests done and they must have taken a good pint all together in separate vials.
how do jw's square this with their blood policies?
The JW argument against the storage of blood is a rewording of the instructions given to Israelite hunters. Wild animals don't let you walk up to them and slit their throats in the Kosher manner and methods of putting a wild creature to death from a distance (e.g. An arrow, a spear, a snare, etc.) do not adequately bleed the carcass.
Residual blood needed to be removed from the body by being poured out. The JW's have subtly reworded this obligation into the stricture, "Blood removed from the body must be poured out", which would normally preclude any and all storage of blood.
Here's an example from the 1990 brochure, How Can Blood Save Your Life?:
"Witnesses believe that blood removed from the body should be disposed of, so they do not accept autotransfusion of predeposited blood. Techniques for intraoperative collection or hemodilution that involve blood storage are objectionable to them." (Cell salvage and isovolemic hemodilution procedures have both been modified slightly to make them acceptable to JW's)
Here's an example from a 1989 Watchtower:
"We have long appreciated that such stored blood certainly is no longer part of the person. It has been completely removed from him, so it should be disposed of in line with God’s Law: “You should pour it out upon the ground as water"
The use of blood for testing purposes is rationalized via the idea that the amount of blood is small; the storage is transient and not for the purposes of consumption or transfusion anyway. (As TonusOH points out above).
basic blood questions for jehovah's witnesses.
where does the bible outlaw blood transfusions?
(acts 15:29 gen.9:4) .
Fisherman
The Decree clearly forbids the eating of blood. Whether it is binding upon Christians as the JW's and a few other groups teach is a slightly different discussion.
The JW's have misquoted and misrepresented medical sources on this teaching almost from the beginning. (I can give examples)
i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.
thanks..
I believe it was being called the "KISS" method years ago.
The average JW can't follow it and their internet apologists won't accept it, but for whatever it's worth:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/55372/586-587-k-approach-no-vat4956-ptolemy-josephus-needed
hi friends , i thought i would just let you know it`s my wife and i, 62nd wedding anniversary today.. not that we were able to celebrate much as my wife wasn`t up to it today .. however i did manage to give her a couple of champers at home ,while i had a couple o ales with friends down at the club and managed to put on lotto for tonite and a couple of keno`s from the club ,you never know the god`s might smile upon us for doing something right after all these years.?.
take care guys.. smiddy 3.
Heartfelt congratulations!
