Posts by TD

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Suing The Music Industry

by Lost in the fog in

jehovah’s witnesses file copyright lawsuit in response to blundering christmas album - listen, obey, and be blessed.

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https://www.toptutorials.co.uk/jehovahs-witnesses-file-copyright-lawsuit-in-response-to-blundering-christmas-album-torrentfreak/.

TD

Sony BMG: the company that embedded copyright protection on CD's as a rootkit which installed without permission. The same company that produces permanently region-locked DVD players

-- Couldn't have happened to a more deserving company

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Merry Christmas

by jhine in

i don't think that it is too early to wish everyone a merry christmas and invite you all to join with me in sending festive greetings to everyone .

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jan .

if you accuse people of being stuck in jw mindset or "cult-like" mentality simply because someone has a different view of politics than you, you'll be deleted.. it's insulting and a lazy substitute for having any real argument for a proper debate.. what next ... "you smell" ?.

TD

The reason this is a losing argument, Uzzah, is because all the same things can be said about the anti-Trump crowd.

Doesn't the psychology of mass movements (i.e. As described by Eric Hoffer and others) apply just as much to one side of the political spectrum as the other?

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I have been out of the cult for 10 years now! What is their latest stance on Vaccines or the Covid-19 Vac? Any insiders?

by Intel in

i used to be very active on this board - 14 years ago (redpill2006...still remember blondie, barbara and many others).

then left the cult for good 10 years ago (ex-bethelite, ex-elder).

today, after so many years, i decided to come back because there is an issue that is nagging in my mind.

TD

The JWs have not officially objected to vaccines for many decades.

Vaccines are an unavoidable part of life.

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Anybody Here That Still Wouldn’t Take or Give Blood?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i would think that the first thing to go for ex jws is the blood ban.

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would you take a transfusion or give blood now!.

TD

One of the funnier moments in life was having a Witness, who was dropping off magazines to businesses at a strip mall, step into United Blood Services while I was donating. The look on his face was priceless.

After I was done, I explained to the receptionist who he represented and what they taught. She threw the magazines in the trash.

17

“He’s Not My President “

by minimus in

jw
friends

it’s already happening .

biden was officially named president-elect yesterday.

i think trump exhausted all of his avenues to keep the presidency.

TD

Well said, Min. You salute the rank, not the officer.

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A GREAT Farside cartoon !

by Phizzy in

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TD

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Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?

by pistolpete in

so the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.

it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.

americans love guns!.

TD

Pete,

A slippery slope fallacy occurs when one claims in the absence of any sort of evidence that a relatively small first step will inevitably lead to a chain of related steps culminating in an overall negative effect.

It is not a fallacy when one can provide evidence for or otherwise demonstrate that progression.

Are you aware of Biden's thirty-six year history as a senator? Are you aware of the bills he introduced and voted on during that time? If you are, then you understand that he is not exactly a fan of handguns either. (To put it mildly.) If you believe the draconian measures he proposed for nearly four decades as a senator were reasonable and measured, I would really like to know why.

Are you sure you understand exactly what it is that Biden proposes now? It is not simply a ban on the so-called "Assault weapons." It is a ban on every center-fire semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine, which includes a goodly number of makes and models. Again, if you believe this is reasonable and measured, I would like to understand why.

It also is not a logical fallacy to point out when an argument is inimical one's point. You said that, "People will hurt each other with whatever means they have, if motivated to" (Emphasis yours) and that this understanding "...is behind the logic of locking up the kitchen knives if an argument breaks out" and "It also is behind the logic of gun regulation."

Hyperbole is by definition not logical, but if your reference to kitchen knives was along the lines of "Hide the knives," and this was simply your own dry humor, then okay. (I've got a dry sense of humor too, so I can appreciate that.)

Even with that clarification though, you have still advanced an argument that would apply with equal force to all firearms because there is not a single one that we could not hurt each other with if motivated to.

Open ended arguments are incompatible with the notions of reason and measure. If pointing this out is a logical fallacy in your mind, then I would say, "Physician heal thyself."

On a more personal note, I would happily have this conversation with you on my patio while filling your wine glass. I appreciate your willingness to discuss this topic and wish you good health.

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Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?

by pistolpete in

so the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.

it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.

americans love guns!.

TD

Pete,

That kind of "all or nothing" cognitive disfunction (of a small percentage of the population) is a large aspect of the problem.

I was referring specifically to the U.K. and the path they took and the arguments they made as they did it.

You can chide me about cognitive dysfunction if you want, but you, my friend, are the one who made the jump from weapons to purely utilitarian objects like kitchen knives and therefore it is you have bridged the gap and made my point for me via a demonstration of the logical end-point of your argument.

I'm not trying to be caustic here. As I pointed out farther up this thread a ban on what Biden calls, "weapons of war" would not be enough. Not in a country as violent as the U.S.

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Is it possible for any Country to have “Reasonable” Gun Laws? What would they be?

by pistolpete in

so the new biden/harris gun policies are starting to appear.

it’s not clear yet, what they will be.. some suggestions; confiscate all guns.------buyback programs in each state.. there is much talk on social media that if this happens, the pandemic, + all the riots, + all the damaged property, + all the annual murders in america, - put together-will be like a sunday afternoon picnic, compared to all the deaths and property damage that will result because of “civil uprising” by millions of 2nd amendments advocates and just plain gun lovers.

americans love guns!.

TD

Pete

People will hurt each other with whatever means they have, if motivated to.

Yes. Therefore it is important to differentiate between a lateral movement in the types of murders committed vs. a vertical movement in the numbers of murders committed.

That understanding is behind the logic of locking up the kitchen knives if an argument breaks out. It also is behind the logic of gun regulation.

That is an argument whose end point is the denial of a pinky-sized keychain pepper-spray aerosol to a 50kg woman who must walk to her car after sunset.