i would like to ask a question regarding gun ownership in the active american witnesses community.
while rifle ownership has been put in the same category as spear guns and fishing rods, how has the issue of pistol ownership been handled in us congregations?
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In the Southwestern U.S. (at least) pistol ownership is no different than rifle / shotgun ownership.
Just like long guns, pistols come in many varieties. Some are antiques and curiosities that people inherit. Some are intended for self defense, some are intended for hunting and some are hard to categorize
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
Mad Freddy was Autistic, and that helped him to disregard the problems with his theology.
He may have been on the spectrum (People with phenomenal memories often are) but then so was a participant here that most of us thought very highly of.
i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.
instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .
they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .
What they need is a young Fred Franz. Someone new, someone smart. Someone capable of spinning new doctrinal webs.
Yes. Franz had a talent for continuity that's missing today.
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
Fisherman
How should JW thinkers like me and writers of JW literature interpret the Bible?
Honestly and consistently
I understand that religious people would naturally give greater weight to what they perceive the Bible to be saying and I'm fine with that even if I don't agree with it. The point where I begin having a problem is when a religious person casts that "rule" aside when it becomes inconvenient.
JW's teach that predators are a deviation of God's original purpose, which is an idea that originated with Augustine of Hippo and not the JW's themselves.
Therefore, when Jehovah of the Bible takes credit in front of Job for the ability of lions and birds of prey to hunt, JW's are faced with a problem, as taking credit for something you didn't actually do or plan would be dishonest, even for humans.
If I were a JW, the choice would be easy for me: Cling to church tradition or drag the name of Jehovah through the mud?
[To Magnum] JW obviously know the scientific evidence without a pet doc pointing it out.
I disagree. JW literature in often wrong on matters of basic science. I have yet to see a lucid explanation of an equinox, for example.
When it comes to basic, high school biology, JW writers come up with pearls like this:
(The Watchtower February 15, 1982 p. 5)
Even worse, they refuse to correct these mistakes, so they eventually find their way into bound volumes, CDs and other references.
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
AFAIK, the JW's have never insisted that either the cobra or snakes in general have literal ears that can be "stopped up" despite what the Psalm says, so the JW's are clearly not adverse to more reasonable explanations.
A JW veterinarian pointed out to them once that the restoration prophecies only state that domestic animals (e.g. sheep, cattle, goats) and people would be safe from predators and don't actually say a word about wild forms of prey. Her suggested that since "dust" as the food of snakes (Isa 65:25) can't be taken literally, then perhaps they were reading more into the verses than what was warranted. He gave many more examples of how literal interpretations contradict arguments for creation and how examples of "Jehovah's wisdom" that JW publications routinely pointed to (i.e. shark and remora, oxpecker bird and rhino, scavengers of all types, etc.) could not have been designed under that model.
In the end however, he had to acknowledge that the one thing leaders and policy makers truly hate is a smartass.
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
To be honest, Fisherman, plausibility doesn't seem to be a huge consideration for JW writers.
I've pointed this out on a closely related subject more than once.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/187882/jw-science-quote-1-22
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
Kinda my point. An intelligent person can step outside the boundaries of the natural world as we know it (i.e. by indulging in either a preternatural or a supernatural explanation) but the instant you do that, all bets are off. If the "rules" can bent or broken or even simply assumed to be different, then there's not much point in discussing mathematical possibilities.
that’s all we need, to lose china’s economic friendship.
since the chinese explained it was a friendly balloon, shouldn’t we expect the same from china?.
Interesting article.
Curious why the Bryens don't seem to think the Patriot and THAAD systems are deployed in the continental U.S. or why they don't mention the most obvious reason for not bringing such a balloon down over a populated area, which would be the fear of a BW.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
For about a week I had been thinking along the same lines pertaining the distance between the Earth and the Moon in the NASA photos, but it was trying to think of how to state it simply without me making and uploading any photos.
Perspective makes a huge difference:
Picture on the left was taken an inch away from Gumby's face and picture on the right was taken 5 tiles away.
Similarly, there is a big difference in perspective between a picture taken a scant 80 miles from the lunar surface (2022 Artemis/Orion) and a picture taken more than 750K miles away. (2011 DSCOVR)
I dug up Soviet era Luna and Zond pictures to show that the Russians actually did some of this stuff first. Since then, China, Japan and others have joined the club:
And still it's "NASA lied"
(Up until this thread, I honestly thought Ken M had retired from the internet.)
bible says flood occurred approximately 4000 years ago.
that is about *200 generations of breeding to get to the population on earth now.
keep in mind that the population increase is geometric.
I'd point out that genetics is not a hard science like math, but it is not interpretation either. The observations of myself and others on this thread are directly supported by evidence and experimentation.
We know the effects of consanguinity in humans through direct observation. We know the minimum number of breeding pairs required to repopulate a species through direct experimentation. Neither is a matter of interpretation.
