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  Wanna Study?

  by messenger in

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  from flordia international university.

  jehovah's witnesses campus bible study.

  president: tomas crespo jr. (305)255-8677. advisor: nydia johnson (305)348-2742. mission statement:.

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  tdogg

  What about the part where they get told they will have to give up their college education to spend more time serving God?
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  Favourite Live Performer:

  by Englishman in

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  i've seen loads of live acts, back when i was a "young person asking" i watched the crystals, heinz, johnny kid and the pirates, brenda lee, joe brown and others all on one show.

  so very innocent!.

  come my eventual departure from dubdom, i resolved to see all these bad people playing their music live.

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  Seen:
  Rush
  Grateful Dead
  Scorpions(I was young)
  Van Halen
  Crosby, Stills, Nash
  Freddie Jones Band
  and many I just dont recall

  The greatest performer I have ever seen on stage was a man named Michael Hedges. If you have never seen him perform it is impossible to understand this man's presence.Not many know of him, but those who have seen him play live have their life forever changed.
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  When God created Adm, did he knw that Adam wd sin?

  by D wiltshire in

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  when god created adam and eve did he foreknow that they would sin?.

  this is taken from the reasoning book:.

  when god created adam, did he know that adam would sin?.

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  If we assume that God did create life on Earth, we must wonder why?

  If you were to observe the universe from a certain perspective, say, an omniscient perspective, then you could see what was going to happen in the fixed universe. For instance if a planet were going to collide with another you would see coming and know when. If there was to be an eathquake you would know that the failure in the crust was imminent, etc.

  That is perhaps why life was created. Life is spontanious, it cannot be predicted with absolute certainty. A creature has DNA to determine its constitution but there are many forces that will shape the creature during its lifespan.A plant may grow an infinite number of ways depending upon the changing forces around it.

  It seems more reasonable to me that God is not able to predict everything that will happen. With all of the precision of the universe, a little bit of uncertainty and unpredictibility would likely be welcome to an immortal being, entertaining even.
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  Just Because You Left the WTS Doesn't Mean

  by drahcir yarrum in

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  your not an asshole.

  consider sixofnine, patriot and fodeja as perfect examples of the validity of my point.

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  tdogg

  You should know, Tommy.
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  Ultimate JW Moron...or is that an oxymoron??

  by kevin221 in

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  things that make you go hmmm???.

  i guess it's a good thing my trip to greece has been postponed.. as i suspected jons' father is disputing his will.

  i'm not surprised, just irritated that i have to deal with this non person for one more day than neccesary.

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  Just like a f*cking vulture.My sympathies to you.
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  Why did the puny human cross the road

  by Jehovah_God in

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  cus i told him to!

  har!!.

  people sometimes wonder why, if i created puny humans in my image, i don't have a sense of humor in the bible.

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  Well said XBrit.
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  Does this sound familliar?

  by tdogg in

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  from the slc tribune:.

  some mormons suffer from 'chosen people syndrome'.

  saturday, october 20, 2001 .

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  From the SLC Tribune:

  Some Mormons Suffer From 'Chosen People Syndrome'
  Saturday, October 20, 2001
  
  
  BY JEFF OLIVER
  THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE

  As some members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints dealt with last month's terrorist attacks, they exhibited "Chosen People Syndrome."
  So said Mary Ellen Robertson, who delivered a speech Thursday at the Sixth Annual Religious Studies Conference at Utah Valley State College in Provo.
  Robertson, an expert on violence in Mormon history and scripture, said Mormons' traditional longing for uniqueness, coupled with an ecclesiastical mandate to be "in the world but not of the world," leads to the syndrome.
  Some members, she said, believe themselves to be "more blessed, more special, more correct, more protected, more righteous and more worthy of God's favor than anyone else."
  Robertson, who is a member of the faith, says several widely circulated Internet messages, which claimed that no Mormons and no Mormon missionaries had been killed in the attacks, exemplified this attitude. Many members were reluctant to accept the truth even when news reports stated that several Mormons did indeed die in the attacks on the World Trade Centers, Robertson said.
  Robertson presented her paper, titled "Still Circling the Wagons: Violence and Mormon's Self Image," during a session on violence and religion in America, which explored Mormon, African American and Buddhist experiences.
  The two-day conference included discussions on women and religious violence, contemporary genocide, pacifism and the Crusades.
  Though the terrorist attacks gave birth to many urban legends, those that circulated among LDS Church members were the only ones to claim that religious affiliation spared individuals from tragedy, she said.
  Mormons use such stories to bolster their faith in a time of crisis and to shore up their self-image, Robertson said.
  "If I believe the Mormons are a chosen people and that God will protect his chosen people from meeting a tragic end, naturally I will create and tell stories that reinforce those beliefs," she said.
  The stories illustrate a desire among LDS Church members to see their "Mormon-ness" as a protective force against evil and destruction, she said.
  Violence also plays a role in what Robertson calls the "Mormon mindset."
  A history of persecution has produced a "siege mentality" among members. The mentality has not disappeared, even though the persecution has, Robertson said.
  "We anticipate mistreatment," she said.
  "Perhaps Mormons fear losing the self-image they have constructed, losing the point of view that makes them feel special . . . I wonder would Mormons be Mormons without these stories?"
  Robertson's talk wasn't the only one to focus on recent world events, though the theme of the conference -- "Religion and Violence: Advocacy and Resistance" -- was set months ago.
  "The timing is unusual and tragic in a way," said Brian Birch, associate director for religious studies at UVSC. "But it's an opportunity to go beyond the rhetoric of the media in an academic setting."
  Birch organized the conference with Michael Popich, an associate professor of philosophy and religion at Westminster College
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  Woman to Face Death by Stoning for Adultery

  by closer2fine in

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  http://news.excite.com/news/r/011019/08/odd-sharia-dc.

  lagos (reuters) - a nigerian muslim sharia court has sentenced a nursing mother to death by stoning after she was convicted of adultery, a nigerian newspaper reported on friday.. the court in sokoto state in northern nigeria convicted safiya hussaini for adultery and ordered she be stoned to death once she has finished weaning her baby, state-owned daily times newspaper said.. the court acquitted yakubu abubakar whom hussaini said made her pregnant.

  she has 30 days to appeal the sentence.. sokoto government officials were not immediately available for comment.

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  TJ: "As it is, it's only a side bar on 28th page of section D of the newspaper... she'll be forgotten soon enough."

  Yeah, just like Afghanistan, before Sept. 11.Why do we always wait untill the situation gets out of hand?
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  Our Kingdom Ministry October 2001

  by Kent in

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  thanks to friends here, the our kingdom ministry october 2001 is now published on the watchtower observer.. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/article?site=wo&date=20011018&category=doctrine4&artno=110180002&ref=ar.

  yakki da.

  kent.

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  Amazing. Havnt been to a meeting in over ten years and I see not a damn thing has changed. You could pull out one of these from fifteen years ago and it would be talking about the same thing. In fact, I think they could really conserve on paper usage and just make a one page leaflet per year anytime they had anything new to say.
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  Between The WTS And The Deep Blue Sea

  by hillary_step in

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  many people leave the wts after a short period, often only measured in weeks, of theological discovery.

  it is not an easy matter to recognize that the belief system upon which your whole emotional persona has been built has serious flaws, some sinister in nature, and often this leads to a rapid confrontation with the elders.

  letters, most of them depressingly repetitive in content hit service desks in local branches worldwide, a few weeks later a sterile announcement is made in a congregation and the apostate conveyor belt shifts forward slightly, waiting for its next victim.. suddenly many find themselves outside in the cold, with little support, often without friends, sometimes with fatally wounded marriages and above all a crippling sense of confusion as to what one should now adhere to as a belief system.. my plea in this post if for all those caught in that no-mans-land, between the wts and the deep blue sea, not to play by the rules thrust upon you, but to plot your own passage over the seas of what is your life, and yours alone.

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  tdogg

  Trilobite, I dont understand the desire to "attack" the WTBS. We must all bear responsibility for our own actions. Unless one is raised in the org. (as I was), one would have to choose to believe what the JW's teach. As for us children of the "great crowd", we must hold our parents directly responsible as they are the ones who made the decision for us, at least untill we were of age.

  I am satisfied just to be out and able to finally deal with my past life in the JW org. This forum has been truly helpful to me personally and I know the same is true for many others, and many more to come.I know that many posts dont get replied to, but that does not mean that they are not getting read, and making people think.