i'm noticing what seems to be a higher incidence of the above among the local jws than in the "general" (read: worldly) population.
i don't say this lightly, my wanderings around the fringes of jw society locally is revealing an alarming trend here.
the poverty doesn't help (there are good jobs, but you need a degree or qualifications to get one).. anyone else see this?
Huge anxiety and depression problem in my family. All born in's. So much guilt, never doing enough, no matter how hard you try.
I still suffer from a lot of anxiety, it's the biggest problem in my life. I'm hoping reading what all the nice people on this forum say about their experiences will give me some perspective.
Or maybe I need a shrink:)
by there fruits you can tell a true christian.
well if this is the case, then if you are not blind it is easy to see that the witnesses truly not what they present themselves as.
my wife is a testament to this characteristic.
I wonder if being unwilling to say your sorry is a Witness caracteristic. My parents and siblings never say they're sorry, I guess it's pride?
I can't seem to stop saying I'm sorry. My husband keeps telling me to stop.
Also, even when they still talked to me, I had to be the person to call or arrange things.
i left the jw organization last year during summer.
maybe some of you can relate.
who of you are agnostic or an atheist?
I remember a Watchtower in the 90's that used the word Credulity, ( hope I spelled it right,)they were making the point that just because you have a strong belief in something doesn't make it true. Of course this was applied to everyone but JWs. This was during the time I was waking up, so to speak.
At the time I remembered how completely convinced I had been that the JWs had the truth when I was a kid. I was born in, I loved and trusted my folks. I thought that my belief was so strong because I had strong faith. What a joke!
I did learn to hate religion as a Witness, I don't know if they meant to teach us critical thinking, it's biting them in the A$$ now.
i left the jw organization last year during summer.
maybe some of you can relate.
who of you are agnostic or an atheist?
I stopped believing long before I was able to leave. I usually say agnostic, but athiest is probably closer to the truth. I can not believe in a god of love when there is so much pointless suffering.
this is my first post, i will introduce myself later.
first of all, i must say that english is not my mother tongue (i'm spanish), so excuse me if i make any mistake.. do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the jws?
some of them are too worldlyphobic to be around non-jws, too dependent on a fixed set of rules in order to carry on with their lives, too dependent on the hope of paradise and resurrection, too unable to leave their personal comfort zone within the organization.
I think most of my family would want to know the ttatt, unfortunately I can't think of any way to make that happen.
It's just so sad. I miss them.
from the time i was a young pioneer, i wondered why jw’s could not accept when a householder offered to exchange literature with us /me.
i just couldn’t picture jesus being afraid of what another might argue.
obviously, paul was familiar with other religions.
I was really slow to read Apostate stuff. I wasn't afraid of it, I just thought it would just make it harder on me. I had enough reasons to want out, going to meetings made me miserable, but I had no choice at the time if I wanted to see my kids and grandkids. Once I did read it and found other people thought the same it felt great.
from the time i was a young pioneer, i wondered why jw’s could not accept when a householder offered to exchange literature with us /me.
i just couldn’t picture jesus being afraid of what another might argue.
obviously, paul was familiar with other religions.
For what it's worth, I think planting seeds can work. It's just slow as hell. A good 10 years before I started to fade I heard an alternate explaination for Revelation. Along the lines of Revelation having been fulfilled in the 1st century. It stuck in my head. Little bits of knowledge add up.
was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.
Both, but with the tipping point being the generation thing in the 90's. Once they pulled that thread the whole picture fell apart for me. New light my @$$! It was so obvious to me. I even asked the CO about it, all he did was acknowledge that I wasn't alone with my feelings. I always wonder if HE had those feelings as well.
it seemed like the society taught that somehow everyone and everything pictured the anointed class.
is that still the case?
?.
Sorry, I was off topic wasn't I?
it seemed like the society taught that somehow everyone and everything pictured the anointed class.
is that still the case?
?.
I've been out for years, but I remember when they told us earth bound folks that Jesus was not OUR mediator. I thought what the heck?!? If we are so far down the food chain, then why do we do all the work? Why are we held to the same standard as the people who are to become immortal Kings in heaven?
