Yes, the number of friends go down right out of the org, but then it picks up exponentially, online at least. What people call friendship inside that event horizon actually defies the laws of physics, and is not *actually* friendship in every sense of the word. It is at most a form of long-term acquaintance, subject to complete dissolution.
Teirce
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Intro
by Legate init has taken a while but i feel i should introduce myself.
i won't bore anybody with too many details.
just that i am an ex-jw, inactive and well... disappointed.
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You are harming loyal JW
by beroea inyou are harming loyal jw.
i have been taken a closer look at many of the posters here on this board.
most of you are very critic about the jw and special about doctrines.
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Teirce
"wonderful feeling of having the one and only Truth" - The facts are against this claim, sport. You bear the burden of proof.
(Or this may be another well-crafted trolling... <polite applause>)
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Is this site JW or what?
by Ephesians6 ini have been on this site for a bite.
reading posts and where are all the jw's?
we have people who have gotten out of the watchtower, good for all of you.
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Teirce
Zev, that sounds very progressive of the wife. I'm happy for her that she feels empowered enough to set conditions. Me thinks that shows that she has more self-value than the WTS would allow her...
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How have appointed bros handled leaving the WTS
by Leander ini'm debating on when to actually decide and step down as a ministerial servant.
my conscience will no longer allow me to give talks or speak to others in the door-to-door work.. i'm feeling really apprehensive about what i need to do, i know for a fact that my wife is going to be devestated.. .
whats the best way to step down from an appointed position?
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Teirce
Here's my useless opinion and hopefully you won't need it.
Dude, the fact that you're afraid of cracking an egg means you're in tough shit, because I was in the same boat. Remember the line from that Atlantis movie? "Them guys are like the Lakota. They can SMELL fear!" I tried playing softball and requesting to step down about 3 fucking times. I'd be happy if it was only my impression, but what I got out of it was: You aren't permitted to resign if you have one iota of speaking ability, a vocabulary in excess of 60,000 words, or can form complete sentences. I did manage to drag my feet enough before I switched congs that they couldn't send a letter of recommendation, but the new brothers were all over my ass. My breaking point was nothing less than disassociating myself. They had too many Needs and just weren't having it.
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Final Straw???
by Tina inpeople leave the wts,willingly or unwillingly(df).. what was that 'final straw' that told you "that's it...enough is enough..'.
thanks in advance.luv,tina.
'boycott shampoo!
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Teirce
I wanted to keep kith and kin, I wanted to not rock the boat. But I had married into an urban cong, where all they physically possessed was the ministry. There was nowhere for me to hide, there was nothing for me to find common ground with, all they had was faith and door to door, etc. Plus, I was a new cracker in a dark hall, so they assumed I was FAITHFUL or something. Tried slapping me with damn MShood, after I had carefully got out of it in my previous hall. Well they couldn't slap the title on me, so they tried slapping me with 5 parts/demos in one month on the MS/SM. Either they were too dense to realize I wanted to lay low, or they smelled something and wanted to smoke me out. They smoked me out and I left.
The meeting with the elders went like this. "Do you know what so-and-so scripture says?" (I quote it verbatim without blinking an eye.) (I reminded them that I searched for viable truth under every rock, in every nook and cranny, and that's the hell why I spent five years piominservanting with regular Bethelneedgreater trips. There's nothing they could point to I hadn't looked at already.)
My best friend Mike, who also conceptually, integrally knew it wasn't real, or the truth, or A truth, or even reasonable, ok, not even fucking conscionable, made clear to me that he was dedicated to continuing his life in the org, with his beautiful wife and excellent family. He was a true man of mind over matter. I'm sure in some other universe, he never got married and he and I got out of the org together.
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a new religion?
by Deacon inok. i finally went and got myself well and truly immersed in the lawful side of being ordained as a religious minister...yes folk, all the legals have been truly investigated and complied with and i can now well and truly start my own church and take weddings and funerals etc.... now...i dont want to be a "reverend".. but i do want to well and truly investigate the entire bible to see what the real message is..and i want to see where i/we go from here.... if any one is serious about pursuing some serious bible discussion...then email me.... thats all the well and trulys for this evening lol
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Teirce
Plagiarise some Sumerian, Babylonian and Egyptian mythology, then character assassinate the contributors, and you got yourself a bible. chop chop
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The End of History, Not Armageddon
by metatron into the average witness, any discord in the world inspires thoughts.
that armageddon is near.
yet, there is a better explanation than.
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Teirce
Sorry comment, I thought you were referencing 9/11. The US definately has had an Antionette attitude towards the Middle East, and there is a definate revenge against class in the WTC attack. I agree that your refutation on fanaticism is stronger.
SaintSatan, good links. That stuff Does ring some bells. I'll be borrowing "Fingerprints of the Gods" by Graham Hancock from a friend. Looks to be a riot of provocative unorthodoxy. hehe
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The End of History, Not Armageddon
by metatron into the average witness, any discord in the world inspires thoughts.
that armageddon is near.
yet, there is a better explanation than.
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Teirce
Yes, comment, 9/11 was very much a 'let them eat cake' and 'storming of the Bastille' sequence.
SaintSatan, "There is some evidence that civilisation has peeked and crashed before, even perhaps millions of years ago. A human skeleton was found in an undisturbed coal bed. See forbidden archeology. Ancient hindu writings contain accounts of aerial battles and atomic warfare. Large areas of desert fused to glass. Radioactive sleletons found during excavation of ruins of mohenjo daro in northern india." - Dude, sounds cool. Any hints or extra info on these rumors? The Tunguska meteorite released radiation that affected many lifeforms, including humans.
http://www.spartechsoftware.com/dimensions/earth/Tunguska.htm
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Education idiot!
by FrightMare inif most of you were jw's at one time, am i right in assuming that most of you are uneducated?
anyone here actually have a degree of some sort?
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Teirce
Utopian Reformist said, "The only real euphoria is constant education!" - There is some evidence that the sensation one has during discovery or epiphany, the Eureka! emotion, is caused by chemicals similar to endorphins and is actually the body/brain's way of rewarding and reinforcing the good behavior of original thought.
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Star Wars figures
by tdogg inlast year i retrieved my star wars collection from my dad's house.
i was a star wars freak since i was 6 years old and i first saw the film.
many of the origional old figures were missing and i wondered if they had just been lost over the years.
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Teirce
Dude, Tdogg, that sucks. My mom threw out my lightsabres, and her pio friend told her she ought to get rid of my demon-possessed little Yoda. I kept him safe, however, and reasoned with her, much to that evil pioneer's sniveling slavering witchery.